Armenian Defense Collapsed In Central Nagorno-Karabakh. Shusha Is In Hands Of Azerbaijan

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The Armenian defense in the central part of the Nagorno-Karabakh region is in a deep crisis.

Intense clashes in the areas of Martuni and Shusha were ongoing for the entire last week. Nonetheless, on the evening of November 7, Azerbaijani units were able to achieve notable progress in the battle for this key Armenian stronghold by reaching its northeastern countryside and disrupting the road link between Shusha and Stepanakert. Some Azerbaijani units even entered the town itself.

On the morning of November 8, clashes there continued and, in the afternoon, Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev announced that Azerbaijani forces had captured the town. Pro-Azerbaijani sources immediately declared that at least 800 Armenian soldiers were killed during the clashes there. These developments came amid the evacuation of civilians from the capital of the Armenian Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, Stepanakert, which is located just north of Shusha. Nonetheless, local authorities were able to contain the panic. On top of this, the Armenian military declared that the Azerbaijani statement about the capturing of Shusha is untrue and that clashes were still ongoing in the town and its surroundings. According to Armenian sources, a large number of Azerbaijani troops were already killed there.

As of the morning of November 9, the Azerbaijani military has not been able to fully secure Shusha. This allows the Armenian side to declare that the claims of Aliyev and the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry are false. The fact that clashes erupted inside Shusha itself already demonstrate the scale of the troubles faced by the Armenians.

On the afternoon of November 9, the Azerbaijani military released a video confirming its control over the town of Shusha. Therefore, the Armenian resistance is now likely concentrated in its northern countryside. The town is outflanked from at least three sides: from the south, west and east. The only road outside Shusha not under control of the Turkish-Azerbaijani bloc leads to the north, towards Stepanakert. It is under a de-facto fire control of the advancing forces and clashes are ongoing near it.

If Ankara and Baku cut off the road towards Stepanakert, the Armenian forces remaining there will have almost no chance to challenge Azerbaijani control over the town. They will have two main options: The first is to die trying to buy time for the evacuation of civilians from Stepanakert and a possible counter-attack from the north. The second is to retreat from the town via the mountains and try to conduct sabotage and reconnaissance raids against the Turkish-Azerbaijani forces from the gray zone.

The inability of the Armenian side to defend its key stronghold in the center of Nagorno-Karabakh demonstrates that they don’t have not enough means and measures to regain the initiative in the ongoing war and their current main hopes are now concentrated on the nearing winter that should complicate the military activities in the mountains and the intervention of some third party.

The current Armenian leadership has been actively working in an attempt to gain support of the United States and the European Union to pressure Azerbaijan and Turkey to agree on some kind of ceasefire that would allow the Armenian forces to avoid a total defeat. Nonetheless, so far, these efforts have led to no results as the Western world is more concerned regarding the negative tendencies in the US amid the controversial elections that led to the alleged victory of Joe Biden. As to Russia, with which Yerevan had been destroying relations over the previous years, it is not likely to directly intervene in the war on the side of Armenia if there is no direct threat to sovereign Armenian borders or the undeniable evidence of ethnic cleansing of Armenians on the territories captured by the Azerbaijani-Turkish bloc.

Another factor is Iran. Tehran has already concentrated a large group of forces on the border with Karabakh. This group is much larger than that needed to contain some incidents that may appear on the border in the current conditions. Iran as well as Russia are not interested in the further destabilization of the region. Therefore, while the current government in Yerevan cannot be described as being allied to them, they will likely contribute additional diplomatic efforts and pressure to the sides to de-escalate the conflict. The Turks and Azerbaijanis fully understand this situation and thus their current goal is to make as many military achievements as possible in order to set conditions for securing of these gains on the diplomatic scene.

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Random Dude

Even the helicopter accident will not change anything. No one is coming to help Armenia. The game is over. Retreat is the only way.

hththny

“the game is over” not yet..dark winter is coming for all

Random Dude

dark for those in supply blockade

John Brown

Azer can take Yerevan before the winter if they want to.

What is left of NK should fall within 7 days or so

Rhodium 10

They have taken less than 20% of NK after more than one month fighting vs Lumberjacks….do you think that they are ready to take Yerevan?

occupybacon

It’s saved. Drone games over :)

Medborgare

Azeri are not men enought o do anything more than sucking turkis dicks!

If azeris were men, then they would have fought their war by their own troops and not with turkish and crazy arab terrorist.

Most likely azeris are also fucking their women with somebody elses cocks.

John Brown

Wow, Total Armenian capitulation today!!!!!!!

Random Dude

the GAME is OVER!!!

occupybacon

I think Stepanakert remains under the same flag for now :)

Random Dude

It will be out of Azerbaijani Army jurisdiction for 5 years. But the law and governance will be under Azerbaijan enforced by the peacekeepers.

occupybacon

The law and governance just with the name but de facto no Azeri will come there to say what should be done. Well, only if invited as friends.

Random Dude

The civilians will, officials will. And peacekeepers will enforce it. Of course it cannot and will not happen within one day, hence there is a 5 year Peacekeeping mission implemented.

occupybacon

Where I’m living, the mayor is elected by the local population. Nobody is sent by the government.

Random Dude

In Azerbaijan the municipality head is elected by the local people, the heads of Executive Power is appointed by the president. Municipalities are self governing bodies however subjects of the regional executive office. Karabakh has 4 districts and will have 4 executive offices, probably 100s of municipalities.
Basically thats how it works.

occupybacon

By Karabakh you mean the official region or the whole that was occupied by Armenia that was way bigger?

Random Dude

Official region. 4 in Karabakh and 7 in surrounding territories, total 11.

occupybacon

So from Karabakh, Armenians still keep half, right?

Random Dude

what u mean “armenians”?

occupybacon

There are no such thing as armenians? I thought they form the majority there.

Random Dude

There are Armenians of Armenia. And there are Armenians of Karabakh. If Karabakh will not be an independent country then it is part of Azerbaijan. If it is part of Azerbaijan then those Armenians are Azerbaijani citizens. So Azerbaijani citizens will keep all of Karabakh.
But again, it is a gradual process, and will take time to integrate.

occupybacon

It’s more of a process in which Russians will nevee go from Azerbaijan. I heard they just said no to Turkey for help.

Random Dude

It certainly looks so. But there is a precedent of Russian base leaving Azerbaijan in 2012. Though that was not a combat unit, but well neither is the Peacekeeping forces. No tanks, no air defense, no air force, and connected with Armenia through thin corridor.
There are news that Turkish peacekeepers will be deployed in Azerbaijani controlled Karabakh region to offset Russian influence in the region and eliminate potential future escalation. Again we will have to wait and see what will be the actual situation there.

occupybacon

We will see but I doubt Russians will allow Turkish soldiers there without serious concessions in Idlibistan.

Random Dude

This war wouldn’t have started without the agreement between regional powers. So I think everything is already agreed upon

occupybacon

I’ve say from the beginning that Putin gave green light to this. Both Eedigan and Putin fears CIA near their borders. Win-win for them.

Random Dude

I tend to agree with you on that one.

occupybacon

You were right, daddy winter came to stop the two brats fighting :)

John Brown

Total Armenian capitulation!!!!!!!

occupybacon

Except… Not :)

John Brown

All Armenians should be thankful for Russia stepping in to save Yerevan and all those fleeing Armenian civilians and panicked soldiers retreating from NK!!

Pashinyan and the rest of the anti-Russian Soros coup
leaders would not send 1 Armenian regular soldier to try to help them escape from NK to Yerevan.

Azer got all they wanted. They will rule over all of NK with a bit of autonomy for the small NK region.

Now Azer and Armenia will be bound to the EEU, Russia, China, Iran etc through the silk road trade routes and economy. These economies will soon be many times larger the those of the collapsing racist supremacist global Jewish Satanic slave empire dictatorship combined the JSSA and
the JU.

occupybacon

Saving Stepanakert*

Random Dude

how is your dark winder going? here yet?

Mr T

arminion will destroy AZ army
arminion AD will destroy AZ army
arminion mountain army will destroy AZ army
Russia will destroy AZ army
Winter will destroy AZ army
Russian chopper will destroy AZ army
Marsians will destroy AZ army

John Brown

Armenians in total panic fleeing NK capital, large numbers of Armenian soldiers are deserting and running for their lives leaving many weapons behind.

RichardD

Do you have credible proof of that?

John Brown
gypsygreek

Soldiers are fleeing together with civilians
Embarrasing

Medborgare

Whats embarrasing is that the shithole country Azerbajian with all its wealth and despite having much bigger military power than the small Karabakh, could still not manage to take the fight by them selves but they had dot ask the even bigger shithole country of the fascist homosexual erDOGan for military support.
In fact not even the homos from turkey could do the job som they had to call in the terrorist arabs and their pedophile troops to join them in the fight agains the small republic of Karabakh.

One thing is for sure and that is turkic men has larger toungues than dicks and thats why they are all gay!

Embarrasing enough for you?

John Brown

Yes did you see the Armenian soldiers fleeing in the the civilian
vehicles? That is desertion, solders ride in military vehicles or walk
with their unit. Where is the rest of their unit, their officers and if
officers where are their men??

RichardD

There is nothing there about desertions. Soldiers are providing security for the evacuation. Which is stand Geneva Convention protocol.
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John Brown

Didn’t you see the Armenian soldiers fleeing in the the civilian
vehicles? That is desertion, solders ride in military vehicles or walk
with their unit. Where is the rest of their unit, their officers and if
officers where are their men??

RichardD

2 soldiers in the back of the truck isn’t evidence of desertion. They could just be redeploying. There’s nothing in the video text about desertion.

John Brown

Yes you are right, all those fleeing Armenian solders are redeploying to Yerevan where they can help defend NK from.
Your dear leader would not send even 1 regular Armenian army solder to try to evacuate Armenians from NK, Russia whom you hate has saved the Armenian nation from oblivion yet again.

RichardD

I’m an American, not an Armenian.

John Brown

Didn’t you see the Armenian soldiers fleeing in the the civilian vehicles? That is desertion, solders ride in military vehicles or walk with their unit. Where is the rest of their unit, their officers and if officers where are their men???

catalin zt

I am Romanian! We fought this muslim goat lovers of the mohamad the PAEDO for a looong time with namely the ottoman SCUM “empire” ! They will always remember Vlad the Impaler, Stefan the Great and Michael the Brave! We used to impale them on spears,cut their dirty empty muslim “heads”,poison the waters they drink,piss on their dead stinky muslim rotten “corpses” and set them on fire plus maaaanyyyyy other TREATS! :) We could go there in NK and DO this World SCUM again with no issues! The PROBLEM is that my beautiful GREAT Nation is now under the rule of the DIRTY, GENOCIDAL anglo-saxonkhazarian capitalist-fascistempire!!!! The SCUM western capitalist-fascist SHIT corrupted our people mind and hearts,our will to fight for the RIGHT cause,distorted our perception of To Be and replaced with the capitalist To Have and artificially placed on the top of the Nation docile sheeple as “leaders” who does nothing but serve the poisonous Empire who PARASITE My GREAT NATION and the rest of the World! My ancestors are the Great DaciansThracians the ones who RULED the whole Balkans up to Poland today ,Ukraine ,plus Hungary today plus down to Turkey today….The Great City of Troy (western Turkey today)was our lands too .When Greeks invaded it 2800 years ago my ANCESTORS flew to what is called Rome today and found it! Romullus and Remus sucking milk from the mother wolf(our Dacian God) were My People! (My grandfather was Romulus too). Then the Roman Empire grow Great and had fraticide wars with Dacia (my home in flesh and spirit) and we invaded(with the Romans) Anglo Terra (uk today) mixed with the barbarian wikinngs and gave them the latin language they do speak today….in few words Our Great History, Ancient and Sacred sound so… Wonder why we are called “Romania” today???? This comes from “romanus” which mean “citizen of Rome” in latin. By the way we the Romanians still we carry in our language at least 30% of what’s so called”latina vulgaris” which is the mother of modern Latin which was created artificially in order to make difference between the rich and working class Romans . With God will the Reptilians will fall!!! Amen

John Brown

Wow didn’t you see the Armenian soldiers fleeing in the the civilian
vehicles? That is desertion, solders ride in military vehicles or walk
with their unit. Where is the rest of their unit, their officers and if
officers where are their men??

Fog of War

The scamdemic comedy hour continues in full force.

– What a coincidence! Russia says THEIR Covid-19 vaccine is also 90% effective, an hour after Pfizer breakthrough made headlines around the world –

http://www.mr-mehra.com/2020/11/what-coincidence-russia-says-their.html

occupybacon

That means 10% survive? Too many.

cechas vodobenikov

agree–obese amerikans–260,000 dead from c19
Russia–25,000 attributed deaths
finally inadvertently u have something right

occupybacon

Well I eas talking about the Bayer vaccine actually, but you are so bitter, you don’t even need a vaccine :)) take a life.

cechas vodobenikov

US FDA requires a vaccine to be only 50% effective; amerikans have low standards.

RichardD

The traitor Pashinyan is refusing to send troops to the security corridor to keep it open.

Rhodium 10

Pashinyan only want Armenia member of EU and NATO..he knows that Putin have close economic ties with Turks..they have shot down a Russian helicopter and killed 2 Russian servicemen…can you imagine if Turks would have shot down a US Helicopter?…now all AZ soldiers thet did it would be killed

RichardD

The US wouldn’t kill the soldiers if Azerbaijan took responsibility for it as a mistake. I agree with all the rest.

Azerbaijan could only get 20% of the UNGA to recognize it’s claim to all of the Artsahk governate. Consisting of N-K and the 7 buffer zone districts.

Without the 7 buffer zone districts. Almost no one recognizes it’s claim to N-K. And the official Armenian Government position has always been to return the buffer zone less a security corridor in exchange for N-K sovereignty. So Azerbaijan is on very thin ice with it’s N-K claim.

Rhodium 10

A Mistake? dont be Naive…they knew that Russian troops were there and constants convoy are travelling to the border with Helicopters escorting vehicles…this is a provocation to show that Russian will never intervene even if they have been attacked….all is ok to promote a fast retreat of Amenian forces from NK

RichardD

The Iranians shot down a civilian airliner by mistake. Mistakes happen. The Russians are investigating to determine the perpetrator/s. I’d wait for their report before drawing conclusions.

Steve Standley

Again, the globalist cabal always attempt to control both sides. It’s the only way to ensure the outcome they desire. This make perfect sense. Russia needs to look at Pashinyan very seriously. They are probably seeking to cross Russia’s red lines and get Russia involved, as crazy as that sounds.

Maria23

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gypsygreek

Hi baby

Fog of War

Why do Russian convoys need helicopter escort in Armenia ? Was it always that way ? Who are they afraid of ?

occupybacon

Probably they were evacuating to Iran and Turkey shot over them to show who is boss.

Fog of War

Evacuating ? Surely you jest good sir.

occupybacon

I’m not a military analyst, just want to hear more oppinions.

Fog of War

I dont think the Russian base in Armenia was in any danger.

occupybacon

Well not as a shameful retreat but rather as a full punishment, I thought. Since, mybe wrongfully, I suposed the war was planed between Putin and Erdogan.

Icarus Tanović

So Shusha has not fallen. Don’t trust to Azerbaijani s sources.
Pashinyan is de facto traitor of his own people and country, CIA guy who works hand in hand with Erdogan’s regime.
But it could turn to Vietnam for Turks in no time.
Wait and see.

Kohlhaas
Kohlhaas
occupybacon

What if the Russia condition to step in is the guy to flee and the oposition just came to say good bye?

Kohlhaas

Maybe… it could be. We will see. But I am sure of two things Pashinyan and the war is over.

Kohlhaas
occupybacon

So he fled already?

Kohlhaas

I don’t know. But he announced the surrender from facebook …. So he has to hide at least for tonight.

occupybacon

Really? He announced surrender?

Kohlhaas

Just scroll down, I posted it.

RichardD

He has a lot of Armenian blood on his hands.

Kohlhaas

The war was over when they lost the airspace in the first week. So many emotional people here, including you, struggled to understand or ignored this fact. If you lost the air you lost the war, unless you are not conducting guerilla warfare and… considering the fact that Armenians tried to hold out Azeris with trench warfare made the situation even more pathetic. Pashinyan’s stubbornness caused more lives.

RichardD

The advance was stopped by the Russians with the Azeris in control of 20% of Artsahk. And the Artsahks in control of 80% of it. That’s hardly a lost war.

SevenMoons

Is the yellow 80% of “Artsakh”. Looks like 20% to me. And its status is still to be determined. And Armenia give back two enclaves and open the Meghri corridor.

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Kohlhaas

He is having hard time with the reality most of the time, but he eventually understands. Give him more time.

RichardD

That’s not an accurate map showing all of Artsahk. And there is no offical open source copy of the agreement that I’ve seen.

SevenMoons

What do you want him to do? You want to send him to the NK frontline and get killed?

RichardD

Step down and be replaced with someone who isn’t a traitor and JWO flunky. Who will have good relations with Russia.

BMWA1

Russian peacekeepers au being sent by Putin to N-K in next 24 hours…See RT (breaking).

Lazy Gamer

Peacekeepers should make evacuation lines for all villages and cities captured

occupybacon

I’m curious where they will be deployed but I doubt Azeris will get too close.

Dick Von Dast'Ard

Bait and trap set for the Bear just got outsmarted

RichardD
Florin Boar

war is end, they upset mr. Putin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM_bu-gmJRo

RichardD

This is wonderful news, thank you!

PZIVJ

YES EXCELLENT NEWS !
So I take it the Russian MI-24 that was shot down was escorting a group of peace keepers towards the Lachin corridor, to get ready for this announcement.

occupybacon

Rip the 2 men that saved hundreds.

RichardD

Thank you Mr. Putin!

Kohlhaas

Haha

RichardD

I could rub your nose in your quotes. But I don’t want to waste my time.

Kohlhaas

Thank you Mr. Richard. Wonderful news.

RichardD

Talk out of both sides of your mouth much?

Kohlhaas

Please show me…

RichardD

Unblock your comments.comment image

Kohlhaas

Seriously?? You can check it from your conversation history!! As if you don’t know that…

RichardD

What are you hiding, this?
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Kohlhaas

After all this mess… do you think they came to save Armenia? To help them? Armenians lost almost one generation in NK and you said “thanks mr putin”.
And now Armenia will leave NK, if you consider that as saving Armenia… I have nothing more to say to you. They will became a puppet state of Russia now. Putin played his cards well, but yeah a few thousand Armenians died, not a big deal.

occupybacon

Looks like you don’t “fully” enjoy Armenian capitulation :)

Kohlhaas

He is having a mental breakedown, he needs time to cope with the events.

occupybacon

All it matters is people stopped dying.

RichardD

You’ve been peddling the Russia won’t help the Armenians in N-K nonsense with the other ziotrolls here for weeks. Russia has single handedly stopped the IDF, Azeri, Turk advance and is deploying troops along the contact line to prevent further aggression by the Azeris.

And now you’re saying that Russia is going to complete the Azeris work for them by getting the Artsahks to leave N-K so that the Artsahks will turn N-K over to the Azeris without a fight. You’re a complete idiot. It’s better for a fool like you to keep your mouth closed and let everybody think that you’re and idiot than to open it and remove all doubt.

Kohlhaas

Read the cesaefire text and read the Pashinyan’s statement. All of your words are meaningles.

An 20%? :)) that’s simply a lie.

RichardD

Read what? I haven’t seen an official copy of a ceasefire text confirmed by the parties involved.

Kohlhaas

Okay Richard. I think it is enough. Us being arguing about this won’t change anything at all. Time will show what is next.
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This is what is going to happen according to Aliyev.
-Azeris will keep the region (blue) they captured, which is almost 40% of NK.
-Russian peace forces will be deployed on the contact line.
-Armenians will hand the determined “rayons” to Azeris (indicated with grey).

But there are some unmentioned areas (brown) which will probably stay on the hands of Armenians. But for how long? Because it will be just a pocket in the middle of Azeri territory.

We will see that if these are going to happen or not. I am not really into discuss it about more because it is pointless to fuss, simply won’t change anything. But I think it is likely to happen for two reasons;

1- Aliyev is now became a national hero in Azerbaijan I don’t see any point him lying about this, it will only damage his reputation. Not Azerbaijan, but he, personally, is the biggest winner in this war. Probably he guaranteed life time leadership and plus became a hero.

2- Pashinyan’s announcement was so pessimistic even though he did not give any details.
https://www.aysor.am/en/news/2020/11/10/armenia-pashinyan-painful-decision/1768777

RichardD

You didn’t provide a link for the ceasefire text, or the map. Here’s what’s current:comment image

Kohlhaas

Russian version in here.
https://t.me/rian_ru/64417

And English version in here. As far as I can see only 2nd term has a difference in English translation. The Russian version do not mention about Gazakh region, only Aghdam.comment image comment image comment image

And about the map, I think SF waits for the last confirmations when updating the map. The one I shared quite close to the reality on the field. As I can see, only significant difference with your map and mine is territories at the flanks of Shusha. Other than that, they are almost identical.

RichardD

You didn’t provide a link. This is the official text:comment image http://kremlin.ru/acts/news/64384

Kohlhaas

Dude…. they are same! Did you even check my LINK?

RichardD

You provided text without a link and a link to text that I don’t read.

You claimed Russia wouldn’t help, now they’ve deployed troops and armor stopping the advance. And that Russia would force them to leave N-K. You’re a fool who’s been proven wrong repeatedly:comment image

RichardD

I don’t read that language. This is the map of the 7 districts and N-K:comment image https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian-controlled_territories_surrounding_Nagorno-Karabakh

Kohlhaas

Haha SO WHAT?? I can read it!
And I also was nice enough to provide you a English translation and to note down the differences between translations. You wanted a link and I gave it, even though I did it, you told “you didn’t provide a link”.
And now what? You are sending me the map of regions of NK. Get lost. I don’t have time for you, I won’t reply further.

BMWA1

Bear hibernation over (KOHEC)!

aces

here is the treaty…not surprising to see why armenian protestors stormed the government building…they want pashinyan dead:))…the peace treaty is utter humiliation for them…nakhchvan will be connected to azerbaycan through armenia…
https://twitter.com/ryanmofarrell/status/1325933929040408577

PZIVJ

The connection to nakhchvan is more than likely an agreement for free transit through Armenia. Probably also monitored by Russia.

aces

yes both nakhchvan corridor for azerbaycanis and lachin corridor for armenians will be monitored by russia…here is another source…borders are a little bit different but the basics are the same…
https://twitter.com/Caucasuswar/status/1325936568704634882

RichardD

Anyone can draw anything. What official communications, if any, is this based on?

RichardD

That’s not from an official source. And even if it is an actual quote. It’s not confirmed by the other parties.comment image http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/64381

aces
RichardD

That’s his version, not the text of the agreement. The Russians are already disagreeing with the Turk peace keeping troop deployment. Considering that he started the war, didn’t release a copy of the agreement, and jumped the gun on putting his spin on it. I’ll wait to see the text of what actually was agreed on by the parties involved.

aces

there is only one text of the agreement and it was signed by all parties… you take it or not its up to you..i know you are a slow learner…what happened to your air cover fairytales?:))

The President of Artsakh Arayik Harutyunyan gave a speech that covered the following points:

On November 7, we completely lost control of Shushа.
I don’t know what assessment history will give to this decision, but we did it forcibly.
The fighting took place 2-3 kilometers from Stepanakert. If not for this decision, we would have lost the whole of Artsakh, we would have had much more losses.
Recently, we managed to solve the problem of drones, but on the last day, the opponent again managed to use their UAVs and deliver heavy blows. All of us, all the leaders, must answer for the fact that we had such a problem.
We were forced (to make this decision) so that there would be no more losses. We fought against the forces of 8 countries.
Our most important problems were internal discord and panic.
I have spoken with representatives of the elite, including Bako Sahakyan, Arkady Ghukasyan, Vitaly Balasanyan and others, and they are all ready to cooperate and work with us. We are consulting with them.
Everyone said that a temporary or final truce was inevitable. Otherwise, we would have lost all of Artsakh in a matter of days. There were no resources to continue fighting.
We don’t need a civil war. I call for calm and joint work.
All the leaders of the last decades should answer for the fact that we had such problems in the army.

RichardD

That’s not the text of the N-K agreement. This is:
comment image http://kremlin.ru/acts/news/64384

aces

thanks for proving my points…your link is in 100% agreement with mine…article 2 says ”The Aghdam region is returned to the Republic of Azerbaijan until November 20, 2020.”…and article 6 says ”The Republic of Armenia will return the Kelbajar region to the Republic of Azerbaijan by November 15, 2020, and the Lachin region by December 1, 2020.”

RichardD

It’s not in agreement with yours. Your point was that you’re a disinfo peddler posting fallacies about an agreement that says something different than what you claim and was walked back by the Russians.

aces

go to an eye doctor lol…ohh wait may be it is just butthurt:))…deal with it…

RichardD

The disinfo you’re peddling has been exposed. Try dealing with facts and credible sources. You have a problem with truth. So you probably won’t.

RichardD

That’s a post from an Armenian online site. And even if true, the districts mentioned are only a fraction of the Artsahk governate that the Armenians were planning to trade for N-K sovereignty.

BMWA1

Road to IRAN open….see #3.

RichardD

Anyone can type up a fake “agreement”. What official communications is this purported text based on?

shylockracy

The good part is terrorist Turks and Ziojews won’t get much more chance to destabilise the region anymore if it works. Russians will operate of the Karabakh side of the border so that’s a de facto recognition of the region.

Now Russia should do a coup in Erevan and kick Pashinyan out and never let another pro-EU/US scum ever take power, but that’s unlikely.

Ryan Glantz

Russia has been waiting to retake Constantinople for a long time :)

Whacko

Are you dreaming?

Random Dude

I have been saying Game Over since yesterday. Now Armenia understood its situation and capitulated. Again Game Over!!!! Any disagreements?

occupybacon

By Putin speech, sounds like Armenia didn’t capitulate. Russia peace keepers will be deployed. So Azerbaijan gave up advantage.

Random Dude

its up to you to imagine things offered to Azerbaijan in exchange of giving up that advantage.

occupybacon

I didn’t smoke my imagination pot today, give me an idea.

Random Dude

A corridor connecting Nakhchivan with Azerbaijan through Armenia, controlled by Russian border guards within Armenia.
15th November – Aghdam, 20th November – Kalbajar, 1st December – Lachin. All Armenian troops will be withdrawn on those dates.
All local militia will be disbanded, weapons confiscated. It will be done by peacekeepers, and peace monitored within 5 years.
Peacekeepers will consist of Russian and Turkish troops, thus eliminating an influence factor one party over the other.
Current gains of Azerbaijan including Shusha will be maintained. The corridor through Lachin connecting Armenia with NK will be monitored by Peacekeepers, bypassing that strategic city.
Cultural autonomy given to Armenians (instead of previously promised self governance)

occupybacon

Both free passes sound fair, and I prefer this term over corridor which means piece of land given. It’s fair for Azerbaijan to take back the provinces that were not part of N-K. As for the part they already conquered, good for them. What is not clear for me is where did you come with the info about Turkish peacekeepers.

Random Dude

Video conference of Aliyev and Putin. Aliyev said to him after signing the document something like: “I am sure Russian and Turkish peacekeepers will be the guarantee of the lasting peace in the region”.

occupybacon

Interesting. Let’s see next days.

Random Dude

Turkish Russian agreement on peacekeeping mission is expected to be signed on 10th today. Turkish forces are expected to enter at 18:00 today into Karabakh. Russian forces entered already.

Genghis Gobi

Freinds and infidels!

Terribleacious news! My dear freind and comrade Grate Khan missing! We liberation a horse in Shushabad, and last we seeing him he get on it and gallop down road toward Stepanakertabad waving headchopper knife around and shouting “Mamtu Armenistani Ha ha ha!”

We all disturbed not only because Grate Khan freind and comrade but because he owe us many goat which salary from Sultan Erdogan al Turki, but which he keeped four himself. At least forty goat! Now who pay us goat? If anything happen to Grate Khan we sue Abu Pashinyan al Armeni!

Assuming he not runned away that is.

Please to keeping both eye open four Grate Khan, freinds and infidels.

Takebeer! Muhaysinihu Akbar! Thank.

hththny

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PZIVJ

LMAO, So sad that Grate Khan is missing in action, no doubt many tears will be shed on this site.

hththny

“îs missing in action” like the americans in the vietnameze jungle

Genghis Gobi

Righteous! Especial tears here because of all goat he owe that went with him!

Whacko

Where are they? Samsonite, Arman Melkonyan, Smedly, Porc Halal?
Did they storm the Government building in Yerevan.