Military Situation In Southern Ukraine On October 2, 2022 (Map Update)

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Military Situation In Southern Ukraine On October 2, 2022 (Map Update)

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  • The AFU claimed control of Zolota Balka village;
  • The Russian Army repelled the AFU attacks on Davydiv Brid;
  • Several explosions were reported in the city of Kherson;
  • Russian artillery shelled the Ukrainian positions near the Bereznegovatoe railway station.

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Ed Theman

I think most of us agree and finally accepted that Russia is doing badly in this war right now and are on the retreat in many areas.

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Peter

On the retreat in many areas -we agree on that. But “doing badly in this war”, nah, take a look at the body count. And check the map, there are still many red areas.

Disinfo

You’re delusional.

NATO is laughing at you

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Clyde

Just brilliant.

Antitrol

Not just a troll but a complete retard…

Barba Papa

It would appear that when you let NATO arm, fund, plan and execute your war, while your Russian opponent only deploys a limited force and its airforce sits at home drinking tea, then yeah, then you can beat him.

Having said that, the Ukrainian Kherson offensive is not doing so well compared to the Kharkov counterpart. Which really seems to have taken the local Russian forces by surprise. At least in the Kherson theater the Russians seem to have been better prepared.

maharaja

you are correct. They simply do not have the ability to use their forces in a unified way. They do not coordinate with air power (they actually have no air power) the arty is slow and inaccurate and they simply are poorly trained except for small units. They seem to do better when they are in face to face infantry battles but they are out classed by mobile warfare.

The attempt to rely on more and larger guns has not worked out well and now it will be manpower. Will see how that turns out but their lack of fighting a real war or their inability to do so will be the deciding factor.

The Objective

He is not right and neither are you. They are not “out classed by mobile warfare” they just don’t have any reserves to counter it, you need mobile reserve to counterattack or hit their flanks immediately after they make a breakthrough.

They are spread thin all over large areas and no army in the world, certainly not Indians, could defend this frontline with so little troops. Everything else is mostly bullshit and stupid ukro-nato propaganda. If they mobilized reserves months ago as some many people suggested none of this would happen but the Kremlin delayed it for whatever silly political reason. It was a colossal strategic error, easily avoidable and predictable. Now soldiers and civilians pay the price. But claiming how everything is bad is just nonsense.

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Q

I’ve just read on some pro-russian TG channel that general Lapin (the guy who was accused by Kadyrov) asked for mobilization in June! He was ignored like everyone else… it’s not him that should be blamed but Gerasimov.

maharaja

basically what you are saying is the Russians do not have the resources to mobilize and move their resources/troops on the battlefield in a way that can counter their enemies and the enemies plans to advance. They lack the ability to coordinate a defense with the capacity to deliver a blow to the enemy that would stop his advance due to a lack of resources or ability. Ya pretty much what I said. so Yes 100% right on!

Now you can claim its due to what ever you want… makes no diff… its just what is happening. Of course not all is bad for the Russians … the loss of the ground is not really that significant at this point the offensive will run out of steam. What does the UAF have left? no idea will Russia take advantage of that? The past seven months tells me no. but we shall see. Russia has all the force multipliers and the lack of men should not stop them from using 100s of attack aircraft to destroy these attacks. The lack of men should make it hard to hold ground to defend and administer whats taken…. but it should not be a major factor when it comes to delivering concentrated firepower on an enemy who is in concentrated in large numbers in a small area.

Clyde

What is the threat to Russian aerial missions? Is it zero, and they just choose not to conduct such missions? Are you saying that they don’t conduct aerial missions at all?

Michael Droy

They seem to be killing an enormous amount of ukrainians for very little losses. 2 HIMARS were taken out yesterday – Ukraine has very little equipment.
What seems bizarre to me is that entering Russian shelling range with tens of thousands of troops for the gain of the odd town can ever be a sensible strategy when Russia out guns Ukraine by 10 to 1.
It seems to me exactly what Russia would want. Are they trying to discourage it? No they are even giving voice to negative comments from Kadyrov.
Russia are the master bluffers.

Florian Geyer

I agree.

Slava Rossiya

maharaja

There is a video posted on topwar.ru from yesterday. It was posted to show the Russians breaking a UAF attack its two videos 9 min go watch it. You can count over 100 armored vehicle from the UAF driving in broad day light in the open across open fields….. now there are a few rounds fired at them not accurate at all but thats not the point. This convoy should not exist ! It should be Su25 fodder but nope …you can see thirty tanks get lost stop turn around and go back to a crossing they missed.

The UAF operates over 100 armored units in the open in daylight and has no fear at all from the air. They drive calmly under fire and continue their advance. It also runs contrary to the idea hat Ukraine has very little equipment.

Ed Theman

Good points, especially about Ukraine has plenty of equipment.

I bet Ukraine did the obvious and put all of their equipment underground or out of sight, and they have loads of it still. Ukraine had loads of equipment before the war and I’m sure its well hidden as that would be the obvious thing to do right away.

Now they are using all of that equipment and focusing it to take territory, and its very effective.

Russia, has not done much since the initial push to Kiev. I’m not sure if they just lost so many troops they had to be too careful. Some say they lost too many commanders early on and don’t have the experience anymore.

Its hard to say, but its just not looking good when you look at the obvious. I was also fooled that Russia was doing well, but not anymore.

maharaja

I wont go that far. While I am not impressed by the Russian military there are just to many omissions to think its just their fault. The lack of attacks on infrastructure or the government in Ukraine is just mind boggling. While they have given some ground its really not that much and in reality its not a defeat of Russian forces, yes they have given ground and lost but they have also been able to pull back and regroup. Costly yes but they are still intact. They need to get their shit together and fast but they are far from defeated.

The UAF saved up a lot of resources for this offensive and in reality they should have little left when its over the longer it goes the harder it gets. Russian troops become more concentrated, supply lines drug out etc. This would normally be a huge problem but Russias reluctance to bomb the shit out of them allows it to go on for far longer than it should. Ones it runs out of gas I dont think they have much left…. will Russia take advantage? I cant say. My own opinion it looks to me like Russia will try and consolidate into the areas it claimed and hold the line wait for a settlement. Which would be the worst thing they could do (again imho) NATO like all others will see that blood in the water and come twice as hard. Russia wanted an SMO but they got a war and they should treat it as such or they will be in trouble.

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link for this video?

maharaja

Go to topwar.ru news.

Clyde

So when the Ukrainians operate in broad daylight, the Russians are in a position to hit them with tactical aircraft without any threat of Ukrainian countermeasures? In October, 2022 the Ukrainian forces are as vulnerable to air attack as the Germans were at Falaise eighty years ago? Or does NATO support for the Ukrainians extend to advanced aerial defensive capability?

NATO is laughing at you

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Edmund

What ‘many areas’? North/Kharkov was the problem since day one, 99% of Russian problems are in this area. Situation in the south is not bad at all, this small breakthrough today is somewhat concerning but it’s nowhere near critical. We’ll see tomorrow what happens.

The problem is Russians lost initiative months ago, because they don’t have enough troops.. They don’t go on offense anywhere, only some small attacks on Bakhmut direction. If you allow your enemy to attack and never attack back, he’ll make a breakthrough somewhere eventually. And when he does you’ll have a problem to stabilize the front.

Lord Humungus

Exactly right. The Ukrainians being fed NATO intelligence can sit back and decide where to attack were the Russians are weakest which is how they finally broke through in Kherson. The Russians seemed to have it contained, but we heard that story before with Liman until it wasn’t. The point is Ukraine doesn’t have the burden of defending anywhere except in Bakhmut/Soledar and they seem to be doing a pretty job of it there.

It is really the case that Russia doesn’t enough troops anywhere to launch an offensive? What about say towards the city of Zaporozhe?

Q

Bakhmut is probably the most entrenched place in the world, maze of bunkers, deep trenches all well camouflaged, and minefields. No idea why Russians even bother to attack it, it should be encircled one day. Right now Wagner troops from there should be transferred north.

NATOpower

Russian army stuck in some shitty village like Seversk for 3 months 🤣🤣

Lesco Brandon

Total incompetence from Russian command

War

Russia only uses 90,000soldier in Ukraine ,i don’t expecting they can fighting like Superman and conquer all Ukraine.90,000men is appropriate for only war of attrition because you will not bankrupt in the long run like Soviet Union.

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Cop

Have we won yet and why not?

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Ed Theman

Nope, this is what happens when you go up against the USA with unlimited amounts of money.

Russia is facing the whole western world, tons of money, supplies, fresh troops, unlimited ammunitions weapons, advanced weapons, etc. Flowing into Ukraine.

Plus all of the western satellites, planning, etc.

How can Russia defeat this with just 200K men allocated? They need to mobilize their whole country for war and attack from the north and cut off the flow of materials entering from Poland.

Afterthought

Russia alone cannot win at this point.

Ed Theman

Russia could win because there is no way NATO is going to throw hundreds of thousands of troops to go fight and die. They also know if the world attacks Russia, Russia will use nukes.

Carlo

It doesn’t work if your the humanitarian war consists in freeing the Azovists with a pat on the back, leaving the comedian on throne in Kiev to take selfies and all the Ukrainian infrastructure intact.

maharaja

Correct. There is no effort to defeat Ukraine as a whole. Without this Russia is just playing games and to me it looks more and more like its on purpose. I can not believe for a min that they do not have the ability to destroy the rails or the power comms etc. The bridges they could make it very hard to do the things that have to be done to feed and fuel and army yet not one has been done. Not one. it makes no sense.

Lord Humungus

Agreed, the only caveat I would add is that they are still treating this as a Special military operation, with all the restrictions that imposes. It seems absolutely absurd to me, but until the Duma ratifies the treatise, this is the case. I was watching the briefing from the MOD with that Igor dude and kept wondering why the hell he is still calling it a special military operation and why is he calling it the Donetsk People’s Republic, well that is your answer.

Lord Humungus

Let’s consider: Russia at one point went of the Rail Transformers. Today, all the railways run 24/7 in Ukraine carrying troops and equipment. They went after the fuel for a time hitting refineries. A real shortage was noticed. Today, Ukraine has all the fuel it needs. They never went after bridges with the exception of that one going to Odessa. What about Airports? Most have been repaired and operational. They have never targeted any arms convoys nor has a single decision been touched even after Crimea has been repeatedly attacked. Does anyone see a pattern here emerging?

Vanya

It can’t just be incompetence and stupidity, no one is that incompetent and stupid.

Inquisition

Very simply, send the chinese in war they would have been a long time ago in Berlin and Paris the russians seems to make holiday in ukraina

maharaja

China is not that supportive not even close, they care only about China. They have done very little for Russia and if paid the right amount they would sell Russia down the river in a heart beat. Look at the sanctions on North Korea… not one could be in place without Russia and China….China happily sanctioned the DPRK then turns around and offers them half of what they paid the day before. China is not a Russian enemy but it is clearly not an allied either.

Lord Humungus

We are told that this Russian operation was years in the planning. Included in this plan must have been a method to stop the arms deliveries to Ukraine. Why hasn’t Russia done it? They must have known the west would supply Ukraine but I am sure they didn’t think they would take it to this level.

Unless Russia is prepared to send some sort of Army from Belarus to the Polish border which seems rather risky, I think the only option is to formally declare war on Ukraine and name countries supplying them as belligerents. That means taking out the Polish Airport, Article 5 be damned.

Of course they can start taking out the arms convoys too, something they should have been doing since day one.

Vanya

They won’t even blow up the bridges across the Dnieper. Nothing the Russian MOD has done makes any sense, unless they are intentionally trying to destroy Russian, then everything makes sense.

Clyde

Rubbish.

Q

To be honest entire operation looked like it wasn’t planned at all. Kharkov for example, the gateway to Ukraine, perhaps strategically the most important city, more than Kiev (not politically ofc). Soviets and Germans fought couple of bloody battles for the city.

Attacking Rus units had months to prepare, they should have familiarized themselves with every street, every house, every rooftop in the city. Satellite maps, spies on the ground (city is full of Russians), ffs even google maps could be useful. Entire operation should have been planned in every tiny detail, every unit, every soldier having his own operational task. City should have been stormed at least partially on day one, it’s just a few hours from Russian border. Ukros were shell shocked, most of their were units in Donbass or around Kiev. Instead Russians absolutely did nothing apart from being occasionally attacked by Ukr Grad’s. Total confusion. On day 2 or 3 some genius sent 2 or 3 light Tigrs right into the center of the city where they were ambushed and destroyed, nothing but a cheap Ukr PR victory. And then again nothing. If Kharkov was taken back then the entire situation in the north would be very different. They had to take it back before even considering moving eastwards.

I’ve read yesterday that Western military district responsible for this debacle lost more material then personnel back in February. From Russian sources, dunno if it’s true or not. But if true, they basically gave tanks to Ukr so they can use it against Russians, they still have some of these tanks using them in their offensive on Lyman direction.

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Clyde

NATO cannot take casualties, but if the Russians upped the ante and sent troops in along the Polish border, they would definitely green-light the overt deploynment of NATO conventional forces in the western territory of the failed Ukrainian CIA project. Russia is only going to go nuclear if they are faced with a nuclear attack, or any otherwise unmanageable conventional assault on Russia proper. NATO cannot even dream of the latter, so here we sit with this relatively low-boil conflict.

Ukronazi

yes, we Nazis already took Mariupol and Kherson. Oh and also Moscow.

Cop

Moscow belongs to Russia, let it stay there. Mariupol and Kherson remain in Ukraine.

Hypersonic Tsar Bomba 2.0 locked on DC

according to who? According to the Danish Army with it’s 254 soldiers (incl. 93 transgenders)? Lol. I am very afraid.

TomSawyer

According to the entire world 😀

Hypersonic Tsar Bomba 2.0 locked on DC

Not according to the people WHO ACTUALLY LIVE THERE, idiot. And this is the ONLY voice that counts (ask the Kosovians or the East Timoreses).

maharaja

Well there is going to be a shitload of disappointed people… according to you the whole world and yourself are going to have to learn to live with that disappointment.

Zelensky your Cockroach

You are not the world, you are just one dumb insect 😀

Vanya

I’m sure they wouldn’t have much trouble over running the Russians either.

NATOpower

All the world is laughing at Russian army keep going

Vanya

At the rate the Russians are fucking up Mariupol and Kherson are as good as lost.

Clyde

To whom, the people who lost them to the Russians in the first place?

TomB

a realistic scenario, one day, if the moscow morons act like in the past 8 months.

Hypersonic Tsar Bomba 2.0 locked on DC

High time to hit the decision making centers in Kiev! Send the Persian magic carpets over there. Tonight!

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Hypersonic Tsar Bomba 2.0 locked on DC

In principle I agree with you. But the Persian magic carpets can’t reach the US yet (at least for now).

Cromwell

What they can reach are those CIA infested bases in Ukraine and Syria.

nice

nice map 🙂

Fowinforwnowenvstpu

What weapon is this?

US lost 10,000 aircraft in Vietnam

Looks like the nato proxy army is good at attacking when they have the numerical superiority. So they should truly enjoy this moment, because only a few weeks left, and the numerical advantage will be nullified. Then we will see how it goes.

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Afterthought

Lol, you obviously dont understand warfare.

Afterthought

Every Army is good at attacking with enough numerical advantage. That’s how you’re supposed to do it.

Putin and Shoigu think they know better than all of the generals of military history!

HillBillySlim

I also note that Russia has opened up enlistment to foreigners. This means that Wagner can bring in people from all the world if need be.

TomB

true, but the moscow morons called them in over 8 months too late.
with 500.000 troops from the beginning, the whole thing would be over now and russia victory parading in odessa.

Afterthought

Russia paying the price for its bizzare philosophy:

“We dont fight like Americans”, “we dont bomb infrastructure” “we only use a fraction of our power”

Well guess what, now you’re losing.

Only China can bail you out.

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Vlad from Romania

“We sent tanks inside cities… without infantry support and avitation protection.”

“We advance on roads in unprotected columns…”

“We do not use metamphetamines on our troops as NATO does…” etc

plus

“We don’t attack decision making centers unless they do something really, really, really bad. Killing civilians in Donetsk is not that bad. Perhaps if they nuke Moscow, we’ll think about it. Or just warn them again.”

“We’ll never target Zelensky, his advisors, his generals, his lovers, his drug dealers…”

“We capture bunch of foreign scum and azov terrorists, sentence them to death, then we let them go to Dubai, first class. We not bluffing.”

maharaja

Nah they just need to be called out! Either its war or its not and now that 300k regular people have skin in the game Putin had better step up to the plate, fact is they need to not only do their fall conscription but need another 150k to be ready to go in another four months to relieve the 300k .

Its about that time where they will either actually fight or they will face serious opposition for their refusal to do so. The people of Russia are patient but he will lose them if he continues to pussy foot. (IMHO)

HillBillySlim

The 300,000 figure is just for public consumption so as not to cause a panic. The actual figure they are going for is a million which they could do every three months if they needed too.

Hans rauss NAFO

Russian and ukrainian telegram channels claim that AFU captured Dudchany in Kherson region xD
Russian shit army is fcked, Kharkiv, Lyman hub and now Kherson hahahahahahahaha

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Lord Humungus

Liar

Anti bullshit

Aww look another sad little troll running out of time 🤣

Putin is a genius

What are they thinking in the Kremlin. It seems to me that they have no clue of what is going on. The military leadership lives in a fantasy world in which there forces are thought to be superior. In the last few days the UAF have launched repeatedly attacks on Davydid Brid as soon as they met resistance they withdrew. Each time the Russian MOD screams victory, look how good we are. Today the UAF launched a big attack along the shores of the Dnjepr and met little resistance. Apparently RF was so busy concentrating on Davydid Brid that they forgot all about there rear position. If this is the first time that this happens you can call it a mistake but this looks more like a fault in the system.

Sorry Southfront you probably don’t want to hear this but that is a Russian problem.

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Vanya

Russia’s ruling class hates competence, they fire anyone who might pose a threat to the existing power structure. Anyone who knew what they were doing after the Georgian mess got shit canned right away. That is why the Russian military never learns any lessons from previous experience.
Its horrifying to realize nothing can oppose the insane and Satanic West.

Fowinforwnowenvstpu

That’s the really sad part. According to the book of Ecclesiastes, the only answer to the evil of the world is to enjoy your life as much as you can, and do the right thing by God.

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Colonel Vladimir Kvachkov. Brilliant officer and true patriot.

Vanya

What a crap fest. What the hell is wrong with the Russian generals and the Russian leadership? Maybe they should put on a few more parades?

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Theo

Just look at this map: Ukros are in perfect position to be trapped, cut off and completely destroyed. Why oh why RuA don’t have reserves to hit their flank???

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During the enemy offensive in the Kherson region, AFU suffered terrible losses in manpower and equipment. Fields are literally littered with burnt AFU men and equipment.

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none

Relax. This is how the Russians fight. They’ve done this many many times before in previous wars. They’ll keep moving around, and retreat. They’re clearly saving many power and luring AFU forces forward – preferring to fight in the winter. In both wars, with Napoleon and Hitler, the Russians performed poorly during the summer and fall, and performed well during the winter. Ukraine’s gains I believe are temporary. But yeah, it sure does look bad for the Russians right now.

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Gneaus stapo

Rather Napoleons and Hitlers logistics worked badly and became overstreched during first winter.

Generalfeldmarschall Mannstein showed bolshiviks, who the real master of winter warfare was, during his wintercampaign to stabilize the front,retake Charkow.

Anyway best experts in winter warfare are finns.

+ Gebirgsjäger from Germany, Switzerland, Austria and italy

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TomB

lol you moron.
3,5 million german nazi army smashed on the eastern front.

tut-tut

September?

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