Neo-Ottoman Nights Of Armenian-Azerbaijani War

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Turkish Sultan-in-Chief Recep Tayyip Erdogan has come up with a justification for the deployment of Syrian militants to the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict zone to support the war against Armenia. According to him, at least 2,000 fighters of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) and the Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG) are supporting Armenian forces there.

During the meeting with the ruling Justice and Development Party parliamentary group, Erdogan claimed that during the phone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin he allegedly told him that Turkish authorities “have identified, through intelligence sources, that there are some 2,000 PKK terrorists fighting for Armenia at the moment for $600. Mr. President said he was not aware of that.” “I have told Putin that if our red lines are crossed, we would not hesitate to take action,” he added. Apparently, these non-existent PKK and YPG members in Karabakh are to justify direct Turkish involvement in the conflict on the side of Azerbaijan and somehow neutralize the mounting evidence showing Turkish-backed al-Qaeda-linked militants moving to Karabakh.

Meanwhile, the Armenian side revealed radar data confirming the involvement of the Turkish Air Force in the Armenian-Azerbaijani war. The released tracks show that Turkish warplanes deployed in Azerbaijan provide air cover for Bayraktar TB2 drones striking Armenian positions, while the Turkish aerial command post circulating in Turkish airspace, near the conflict zone, coordinates the entire aerial operation. The entire operation, according to Armenia, was planned and carried out with the deep involvement of Turkish military specialists.

Under the pressure of evidence, the Azerbaijani side has already admitted the presence of Turkish specialists and military equipment on its territory. The last step towards reality would be to confirm that they are involved in combat.

On October 28 and 29, forces of the Turkish-Azerbaijani bloc were conducting intensive strikes on Shushi and Stepanakert, the largest towns in Nagorno-Karabakh. Several airstrikes even hit the maternity section of the hospital in Stepanakert. Some sources even speculated that these strikes were delivered by F-16 warplanes. On the other hand, the Armenian side demonstrated that it is not much better and shelled the Azerbaijani town of Barda killing at least 21 people and wounding 70 others. The Turkish-Azerbaijani shelling of settlements and towns in Nagorno-Karabakh is a logical result of its attempt to remove Armenians from the region. Therefore, their strikes are aimed not only at military targets, but also at civilian ones in order to displace the local population. Meanwhile, the Armenian retaliation in a similar manner rarely has real military goals, rather it helps Ankara and Baku to gain some ‘evidence’ to confirm its propaganda narrative about ‘Armenian terrorism’. Moreover, these actions of the sides contribute to the further escalation of the conflict and undermine any weak hopes for escalation via diplomatic channels.

On October 29, the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry reported that it continues combat operations in the Khojavend, Fizuli, and Gubadli directions of the front calling its offensive ‘retaliatory measures’ to contain Armenian ceasefire violations. According to Baku, the Armenians lost two T-72 tanks, two BM-21 “Grad” MLRS, 14 different types of howitzers, and 6 auto vehicles in recent clashes. Earlier, Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev announced that his forces had captured 13 more settlements in the districts of Zangilan, Fuzuli, Jabrayil and Gubadli.

In their turn, the Armenian military claimed that it has repelled an Azerbaijani attack in the direction of the towns of Kapan and Meghri in southern Armenia inflicting numerous casualties on the ‘enemy’. Armenian forces are also counter-attacking in the district of the Gubadli, aiming to retake the district center. However, this attack reportedly was repelled. As of October 29, Armenian forces have contained Azerbaijani attempts to reach and fully cut off the Lachin corridor linking Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh. Nonetheless, the situation in the area remains instable and the Turkish-Azerbaijani bloc still continues its offensive operations in this direction.

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Tommy Jensen

If the parties had listened to my advices we would have peace today.

occupybacon

Jesus, is it you?

Tommy Jensen

We all know what happened to Jesus when he revealed he was Jesus. But I can save you and answer on anything else than your question. The truth and nothing but the truth!

occupybacon

Yes I know what happened to him: People didn’t believe him. So I gues he gave up eventually. If he was putting death before fight, he wasn’t immortal.

Tommy Jensen

Well he had a planned mission where death was included. His new arrival is planned to be under cover. I assume you can guess the rest from here…….

occupybacon

What did you do with Tommy??

Tommy Jensen

lol

Kohlhaas

Tommy, I apologize on the behalf of governments of Armenia and Azerbaijan. Please… forgive us.

partigiano

Would your neo-ottoman-pan-turkish government also make any chance in nearby future, to apologize to Syrian-ethnic-groups like Arabs, Assyrians, Kurds, Turkmen and Yezidi’s as well?

Stev60

And Greeks.

partigiano

And Cyprus too.

Kohlhaas

Let me ask Erdogan, okay?

partigiano

Thing is man, why do Turks always denigrate other populations, like even their neighboring nations such as Iran, Greece, Cyprus, Bulgaria, Armenia, as well as Syrian-ethnic minorities and also Russians? Do Turks think they stand above them all then? Is the Turkic race the new Nazi Aryan pure race? Can or will you explain this?

Kohlhaas

Okay, if you want a serious answer, let it be. First, there is no denigration against Iran, Bulgaria, Syrians (before the war) and especially not against Russians. Turks simply love Russians. If you are deducing these by looking at the comments on the internet…you are at the very wrong place.
About Syrians, before the war everything was just good, both nations were visiting each other’s country regularly, the visa was lifted and so on. But once war has started 5M Syrians fleed here which is the source of all hostility. Imagine your country filled with 5 million people from another country just in a year! I don’t blame the people because of this.
Now about Greeks and Armenians. In these cases, all hostility root from the events happened during WW1. Their separation was not peaceful (I am not saying it should have been). But Greek and Armenian cases are quite different. Even though we have problems with Greeks from time to time, most of us do not hate them, like even. Our cultures are quite similar, it is almost like Greeks are Christian Turks or vice versa. But I can’t deny there is a part that doesn’t like Greeks, I can’t deny that, hmm I would say around 30% of the population. These people are the illiterate nationalists who did not even see a Greek. These kinds of people exist in all nations… we just have more.
Now the Armenian case is very different. Before the WW1, relations with Armenians quite good. Most of them were working at the top jobs in the Ottoman Empire. However, now Armenians raise their generations with Turkish hatred. Almost all of their ambitions are against Turks. They created a nation exists over Turkish hatred…and this hatred created a mutual hatred. I personally feel neutral about Armenians. But every action has a reaction. I am not justifying one side, but nothing comes without reason.

partigiano

OK man, thanks for your honest answer!
But I have some questions about your comment:
1) If Turks love Russians, why did they bombed several Pantsir-equipment from Russia-Haftar in Lybia? And why does turkey still support jihadists head-chôpppers in Idlib against Assad (and Russians)?
2) If ‘normal’ Turks’ don’t have problem with Greeks, why does your government seeking for oil in Greek waters and why did Turkey threatened Greece (and so Europe) with releasing the immigrants?
3) About Armenians, I don’t know about them and the silly war they face wright now.

But you are wright all the way: social media is filled with greywolves-Turkish-nationalists. Glad that we have you as a more objective Turk. Thanks man!

Kohlhaas

But all of the questions you asked are about politics. Honestly, which nation decides its own international policies? It is all up to politicians. Well, yes, they are elected by the people, but who can leash them once they get the power, especially in the countries like us, in which you can create an army from masses if you are a good demagogue.
The questions you asked are not related with the public opinion towards other nations, yet let me answer them shortly.
1-Russia officially does not involved to Libya, only via Wagner, well, everyone knows this of course, but still they are “not” in Libya. Besides, those Pantsir systems were belonged to Haftar, not Russia. UAE bought from Russia and supplied to Haftar, Wagner has their own systems in there too, but as far as I know they did not get hit. Actually, this topic is related with 2nd question you asked, more than Russia.
About the Idlib issue… that is the one worries me for real. Now, Syria almost won the war, only Idlib left and as we know it is safe heaven for headchoppers, once Syrian army takes (if they can) Idlib what the f. is going to happen those headchoppers? This question worries not only me, but lot’s of people in here, even Akp supporters worried about this. Probably the new government (after Erdogan is gone), will want to have a peace with Assad and pull the troops from Idlib. But again..what about those headchoppers… pushing your army is easy, but pulling is not, not at all.
I can assure you 80% of the population (maybe even more) would agree with this sentence: “as long as he takes the Syrian refugees back, we don’t have problem with Assad”. You know what, I think Assad knows this and he is okay to freeze the conflict until Erdogan is gone.

2- Now about East-MED. issue, current government did right and wrong things… mostly wrong. But this is not one of them. Greek government literally wants to steal from us. They want to have the all EEZ along our coastal region in the southwest. Search “Seville eez map greece”, they base their claims on this map, but the problem is, this map is just drawn by scholars, it has no binding power at all. Also, they are still disputed water, there is no agreement on who is right or wrong. In that map Greek EEZ should end along the line of Rhodes and Crete, east of this line should be ours. But they want this huge chunk because there is a small island Kastellorizo, which you won’t be able to see on the map, it is that tiny. EEZ borders drawn according to your coastal territory and that’s why this issue is unfair about us. They would be right only if they were an Island Nation. Island nations have rights to claim EEZ between their islands to constitute their integrity. Yet… they are not and Kastellorizo is far away from their mainland. Turkey’s main goal here to propose maximalist claims as Greeks do and make them sit on the negotiation table. It may not seem like this because of the offensive language of Erdogan, but the goal is not a war. Well.. if things come to that point.. I don’t think he will back off though. Anyways, Greek government does not want to go to the court or negotiate because they afraid they may even lose some islands. Because there are also disputed Islands which are not included in the territorial agreements. I am not sure if they will lose islands or not, but if they went to court they will lose their claim based on Seville map, that’s the thing I am sure of.

One last thing, we have a huge number of active internet users. Most of them has things to do in real life you know :D but the ones who has not better things to do masturbate on their dreams about how they will conquer the world lol Those are the illiterate and spiritually weak people. Because they have nothing to hold, but nationalism. There is one strange thing too… there are lot’s of Turks from Europe who fits into that category. That’s real weird… most of them have higher living standards than most of us, even the people with decent jobs, yet they support akp…

partigiano

Can’t you respond on my previous comment?

Kohlhaas

I did, at least I thought so. But apparently, it detected as a spam.

https://imgur.com/mxxvg2D
https://imgur.com/4rWTJHM

partigiano

Although I have difficulties to read this image, you surely are generous with your information about the Middle-East. Respect of your knowledge.
The Greek thing is new for me. I’ve never looked up local information about it, only what the media is saying here. But you put me in a certain perspective. I have to do more research info on that. It is a pity that you did not explain the Armenian war in Azerbaijan, but nevertheless, thanks for your enriching answer.

Stev60

Which ones?

Tommy Jensen

All of them. They only listen when it is too late.

occupybacon

NATO weapons against Soviet weapons… It’s just not fair!

Stev60

NAZIO weapons now.

occupybacon

I don’t know who adviced Armenians to buy Russian weapons but I would fire that guy :)

John Brown

Azer has mostly Russian weapons as well.

occupybacon

I know, but they are not winning the war with them.

BlueHeadLizard

The key word is ‘Soviet’, the Artzakh weapons are 50 + years old. Artzakh trench warfare vs Azeri drones. So the first post should read:

21st century weapons against cold war weapons… its just not fair!

occupybacon

What I wantd to underline is that the Soviet weapons tend to resist in time and that’s tricky for lazy government who don’t change them just because they still work.

BlueHeadLizard

Good point, I hear ya. Artzakh / Armenia lulled into non action (not upgrading) from over confidence from their victory back in 1994. Meanwhile Azerbaijan, from the humility of defeat working hard how to change that.

occupybacon

Exactly. They stopped to savurate that victory for too long… Now they will become nostalgics.

Random Dude

It is indeed true that the game is played by the big players. Small players are just left with small opportunities, if they can grab it. Azerbaijan seems to have calculated everything, and showed up at the right time and right place. Armenia however has put all its bets on the diaspora, which is not all powerful and cannot have any direct effect on the battlefield. Game over soon.

Stev60

Big players, like NAZIO, and neo-Ottoman butcher-buddies? Big players in Satan’s poker, winners get to burn in Hell for sure.

Random Dude

Hell or Heaven doesn’t change the situation in the ground

Amelia

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Stev60

But they are for ever.

Rhodium 10

Time play againts AZ….that last week they told that they are going to lachin and failed!…also no significative changes in the south front and no advance in North and East.

Random Dude

Negotiations are happening in Geneva now. Don’t expect announcements of significant changes on the battlefield. Technically the 3rd ceasefire is still on

Stev60

Kurds fighting in Armenia for Christians against Muslims? Bullshit.

Armenians must avoid hitting civilian targets, it is propaganda gold for the Turks, besides wrong.

Turkish F-16’s and other assets are NATO. More like NAZIO now, co-perp in the Armenian Genocide.

Erol

PKK had always Armenians in their Ranks.
PKK is Comunist and against Religion, has also Ateists in their Ranks.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

Erdogan’s blaming Putin alone but Putin won’t be the one financing this operation, just facilitating it’s operation, the financers are probably someone else.
The Arab League have constantly been offering Assad’s Government support and aid since june 2018 and Assad’s constantly refused to accept it, Assad’s probably unable to forgive the Arab League’s initial stance and opposition against his government, but I suspect the Armenians won’t be refusing the Arab League’s help if it’s offered, and I’ll bet it’s already been offered and accepted.
……

“CAIRO: The Arab League head has warned Turkey over its role in increased regional tension in the Caucasus and Mediterranean regions, saying that “it will not end well” for the regional power.

Secretary-General of the Arab League Ahmed Aboul Gheit said in a televised statement: “Turkey is facing a group of differences with regional and superpower parties to a degree that will not end well for it or its leadership.

“Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is interfering in Egypt, Syria, Iraq and Libya militarily,” he added.

“Erdogan also interfered in the Caucasus between Azerbaijan and Armenia, collided with Greece and Cyprus, and attacked the eastern Mediterranean in the gas areas, which made a large and influential country like France send fighters and an aircraft carrier to Cyprus.

“Even Italy, which was understanding of many of the Turkish positions, went to France. Everyone is telling Erdogan now that he will face consequences for his actions.

“It annoys me that the Syrians use mercenaries to fight with Azerbaijan against Armenia … It is very sad that Syrian mercenaries are being used by Erdogan in cases that are unrelated to Turkey,” Aboul Gheit said.”

Fog of War

The Arab league are ZioAmericans and Israhelli hand puppets. Its no wonder Assad wants nothing to do with them.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

“The enemy of my enemy is my friend”, at least while it suits them.
The Saudis offered 1 bill in reconstruction cost and Assad refused to accept the offer, that makes Assad an honourable man and very deserving of admiration.
But I’m the sort of man who would’ve happily swallowed my pride, put aside my morals, accepted the offer, and then spent that billion dollars on the Syrian people,and then I’d ask the Saudis for even more cash, and if I’d managed to get a second billion form the Saudis, I’d then send them a damage bill for the first 9 years of carnage they caused in Syria, which would be a hell of a lot more than 2 billion.
International courts are there for a reason, Assad has to start putting together legal teams to ascertain how viable proceeding would be if he sued for damages, I suspect he has a good chance of winning if he does, there’s a mountain of evidence stacked up after 11 years.

Fog of War

” The Saudis offered 1 bill in reconstruction cost and Assad refused to accept the offer ”

When the devil makes you an offer there’s always a catch.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

Not when the devil desperately wants something you have, and Assad’s got exactly what the devil needs and wants, so Assad can set the terms for any deal he makes with the Arab League, they need him way more than he needs them.

Fog of War

Please humor me. What does Saudi Arabia desperately need from Syria ?

Willing Conscience (The Truths

The majority of the Arab League Nations and the Arab monarchies more than the rest of them want to stop the Muslim Brotherhood in their tracks, they’re directly threatened by the Muslim Brotherhoods political activities and their victories and the League are doing whatever they can to dismantle the Brotherhood.
So far the Brotherhood is winning, Egypt was a victory for them but they lost it when the elected government was overturned,
Iraq is in Turmoil with both groups of Peshmerga opposed to each others agendas, the KRG supports Turkeys fight against the PKK and YPG and, and the PUK keep saying they want Turkey out of northern Iraq and Syria,
In Yemen the Turks support the Houthis [I do too] and have drawn a stalemate against the Saudis forces,
In Libya The Brotherhoods more or less in control of the government and it looks like Russia’s backed down and they no longer supports the opposition forces,
In Azerbaijan the Brotherhood is also kicking ass and it looks like they’ll achieve another victory there,
So after all that I’ll answer your question, The Saudis desperately need Assad to remain in power, and even more than that they want Assad to dismantle all the Brotherhood political organizations in Syria, and Assad can’t do that if he’s forced from power, and he can’t even do it if he remains in power after the next election, resolution 2254 is going to stop him doing it.
The Brotherhood is already sitting down and rewriting the Syrian constitution with the Syrian Government thanks to Iran and Russia’s stupidity, so they’re going to become even more powerful after the next Syrian election and be practically untouchable.
So the Arab League desperately need a victory against the Brotherhood and Syria is the best place to achieve that victory, Assad is already fighting the Brotherhood and he has a large army to put in the field, all he needs is financial support and his army would kick the hell out of the opposition forces, and the only thing holding Assad back from destroying the Brotherhood in Syria is Russia and Iran’s continual pandering to Erdogan’s demands.
So if Assad doesn’t let the Arab League help him get rid of the Muslim Brotherhood they’ll either end up controlling Syria after the next election or at the very least be in a much stronger position than they are now, and the Arab League Nations don’t want that to happen.
If the Brotherhood gets a political foothold in Syria they’ll spread to Jordan and Iraq as well, just like Isis spread from Iraq to Syria and nearly Jordan too, and that’s not in the League’s best interests either, what is in their best interests is an Assad victory over the Muslim Brotherhood, a victory in Syria could change the course of the bigger war, one the Arab League have been losing, that’s why they desperately need him.
The Arab League have done a lot for Syria since 2017 but very few people seem aware of the fact, they may not be a very savory group of people but they want exactly the same thing Assad wants, to destroy the Muslim Brotherhood, they did it in Egypt and now they want Assad to help them do it in Syria, and they want to do it before the League has a real chance of grabbing power in Syria.
But the clocks ticking and they’re running out of time, resolution 2254 is on it’s way.

BlueHeadLizard

After General Sissi + army ousted in military coup the Muslim Brotherhood from political power in Egypt, where is its power base now and how does it get financing?

Willing Conscience (The Truths

The power base is Erdogan’s AK party and the biggest financers are Qatar followed by Turkey.
Erdogan’s the de facto leader of the worldwide Brotherhood organization so their main power base now resides in Turkey, but they have a strong foothold in every single Islamic Nation in the world, they’re still active in Egypt despite local repression, and are also very active in western countries like England and France.
For the last 2 years Erdogan’s been trying to hide his involvement with the Brotherhood due to all these accusations by the League Nations, Trumps also trying to put the Brotherhood on the international terrorist list too, so Erdogan’s finding it harder to remain the figurehead for the movement and has to distance himself from them now, but the League still keep saying Erdogan’s still in charge.
And even though Qatar and Turkey are the biggest sponsors of the Brotherhood the bulk of the money they receive is from donations. Rich Muslims donate millions and tens of millions in one hit, mum and dad Muslims also contribute with smaller donations that add up to hundreds of millions, and when they can they make money from government institutions as well. For example in Syria the Brotherhood controls about 24% of the occupied territories [HTS controls 76%], and they have their own Government institutions that levy taxes and fees, and just like a legitimate government they put aside a portion of that revenue and contribute it to the Muslim Brotherhood cause.
The Muslim Brotherhood is a very powerful organization with tendrils that spread far and wide, and they have a message that most Muslims want to hear, both Sunni and Shia Muslims.
The Brotherhood wants to unite all Muslims both Sunni and Shia under one Caliphate, they say under one banner they can end western domination of Islamic countries, they also want to install democracy in countries like Saudi Arabia and give the Muslim people a voice in their governments, and that has a lot of appeal to most Muslims, and to me too, it sounds very fair and honourable, but then we add in Sharia Law and everything changes.
Just like the Iranian style of democracy the Brotherhood ideology wants Sharia Law as the top tier of Government, not people’s votes, which means they can’t change some laws no matter how much they want to, Sharia Law sets some laws in stone, so to me that’s not real democracy at all.
In Syria this would be totally unworkable, the many different Muslim faiths all have different interpretations of Sharia Law and not all Muslims are fanatically religious either, and the Christians in Syria definitely don’t want to abide by Islamic Sharia Law, so as good as the Muslim Brotherhoods ideology sounds on paper, when it comes to actual implementation of the system, it fails to deliver true democracy.
Im most western democracies if you win an election by 1 or 2 percent it doesn’t allow you to drastically change the laws in such a way that a high percentage of the population feels isolated and estranged by the new laws, but according to the Brotherhood [Egypt as an example], so long as you win just 51% of the vote that means you can now oppress the rest of the population that voted against you. Christians in Syria could no longer celebrate Christmas with a sip of Jesus’s blood, they’d be breaking Sharia Law.
Assad’s said from day one the biggest threat to Syrian sovereignty is the Muslim Brotherhood, and he’s still and saying it now and saying it even louder than he ever has, I think he’s right.
Cheers.

John Brown

Turkey is going bankrupt. Erdogan will be lucky to be alive and in power 3 years from now

Willing Conscience (The Truths

I thought that too right up until 6 months ago but now I’m not so sure, his popularity has gone up since the Azerbaijan conflict started 51% now, plus new oil deals with the Iraqi Kurds as well as deals for cheap US gas, Russian transit fees for gas and oil, stealing Cypriot oil/gas.
So it’s not looking good for the Turkish opposition parties anymore, it was right up until the Russian let the Turks move into Idlib lock stock and barrel, but not anymore.

John Brown

When the people have no food Erdogan will go down. End of story. Its coming to this very soon. Its inevitable.

Its about the economy as always. Same in Saudi Judea Arabia as well.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

Not if a major conflict erupts in the meantime, no new elections will be held during open hostilities, so that’s another possible way for Erdogan to remain in power.
And I don’t think he’d hesitate to start a new war if it was the only option left for him to remain in power, not a doubt in the world, he has Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Libya, Azerbaijan to choose from already and a few other likely candidates as well.
So don’t write off the madman just yet, I have several times and been wrong every time.

BlueHeadLizard

thanks for all the excellent background – I hope your a journalist working for a good media outlet. Of course Turkey itself is not the main Muslim Brotherhood centre after Mursi was ousted in Egypt.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

Just a menial worker who likes to think for himself.
When I was young most journos helped us do the thinking with their honest and enlightening articles, nowadays most journos only tell us what they want us to think, so all us readers/viewers have to work even harder now to get to the truth.
Cheers.

Fog of War

Thanks for the explanation, but you’re all over the place.

1) The Jihadis were supported by both the Arab League, Turkey, ZioAmerica / NATO, and Israhell.

2) The Brotherhood = The Islamic version of the Free Masons which = a Zionist controlled group. The Arab League = Zionist crypto Jews or at best Zio controlled lackeys.

3) All these organizations are ultimately being used to destroy, and subjugate, Islam and the rest of the world. They are not enemies of each other.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

“1) The Jihadis were supported by both the Arab League, Turkey, ZioAmerica / NATO, and Israhell.”

That’s true right up until the start of 2017, but then the Arab League brokered a reconciliation agreement between the rebels in Daraa/Quneitra/As Suwayda and the government [mid 2017 60,000 rebels], the Arab League/Saudis abandoned HTS at the end of 2017, the US abandoned the FSA mid 2018, and all 3 parties started saying Assad could stay in power.
So it’s ok to say they all helped start the war but you also have to acknowledge they’ve all stopped supporting the military overthrow of Assad, you can’t keep living in the past, things have changed.
….

“The Trump Administration says it still wants a political process that holds the prospect of Assad’s departure. But it has concluded that it may take until 2021, when the next election is scheduled, to pull it off. Depending on the outcome of the 2020 U.S. election, Assad could still be in power after Trump leaves office. U.S. officials worry that Assad could win the 2021 Syrian election, one way or the other, and remain in power for years to come.”

https://www.newyorker.com/sections/news/trump-to-let-assad-stay-until-2021-as-putin-declares-victory-in-syria

“In a decision contradicting administration statements that called for Syrian President Bashar Assad to step down from his position as a precondition to a peace process, the White House has reportedly decided to let Assad hold on to the presidency until elections in Syria are held again.

But now the Trump administration is reportedly willing to wait four more years until the next elections to see a political process leading to Assad’s ouster resume.
Russia, Iran and Turkey are currently dominating the peace talks, and assessments proclaim that this leaves the U.S. with very little room to maneuver- which may explain why it has backed down from the initiative to remove Assad from his rule.”

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/trump-will-reportedly-allow-syria-s-assad-to-keep-his-seat-until-2021-1.5628481

“MOSCOW (AP) — US Secretary of State John Kerry on Tuesday accepted Russia’s long-standing demand that President Bashar Assad’s future be determined by his own people, as Washington and Moscow edged toward putting aside years of disagreement over how to end Syria’s civil war.
The United States and our partners are not seeking so-called regime change,” Kerry told reporters in the Russian capital after meeting President Vladimir Putin. A major international conference on Syria would take place later this week in New York, Kerry announced”
……

“2) The Brotherhood = The Islamic version of the Free Masons which = a Zionist controlled group. The Arab League = Zionist crypto Jews or at best Zio controlled lackeys.”

You’re reading way too many conspiracy theories, you should instead be listening to the people who actually fight the Brotherhood, the groups worst enemies will tell you exactly who they are. And the Saudi’s should know, so listen to what they have to say about them, and the Saudis are the biggest Zionist lackeys of all.
The Muslim Brotherhood and Erdogan are Palestines greatest allies, they do more to help Palestine and more to harm Israel than any other organization in the whole world, the Muslim Brotherhood is the NEMISIS of Israel, no other organization is as committed to removing Israel from Palestine than the Muslim Brotherhood is.

“3) All these organizations are ultimately being used to destroy, and subjugate, Islam and the rest of the world. They are not enemies of each other.”

The Muslim Brotherhood is the one Islamic organization that wants to unite both Sunni and Shia under one Islamic banner,
They want to depose all Islamic monarchies like the Saudis, UAE, Jordan, Kuwait, ect,
They want to instal democratic systems in ALL Islamic Nations,
They want to force Israel out of Palestine,
They want to stop western powers [including Russia] meddling in worldwide Islamic affairs,
AND THEY WANT TO IMPOSE SHARIA LAW ON EVERY SINGLE ISLAMIC NATION.

That’s what the Muslim Brotherhood states it wants to do and that’s exactly what they’re actually trying to do in,
Iraq,
Syria,
Yemen,
Libya,
Azerbaijan.

So the Muslim Brotherhood is actually doing the opposite of what you claim they are, they’re the one group that is actually trying to unite the Muslim world and end the Zionist and western control of some Islamic Nations, and the group I’m backing, which is the elected Syrian Government, are fighting them to stop it happening in Syria.
If the Muslim Brotherhood left out the Sharia Law part of their objectives I’d be on their side instead of Assad’s, but Sharia Law is the ball breaker for me,
NO MAN CAN TELL A WOMAN SHE CAN’T WEAR A BIKINI ON A BEACH, and any man that does is my enemy, I love looking at women wearing bikinis, that’s if they want to wear them.

You need to do some research on the Brotherhood, don’t just read conspiracy theories get the facts as well, then make up your mind as to whether or not they have any links at all to the Israelis.

Fog of War

” You need to do some research on the Brotherhood, don’t just read conspiracy theories get the facts as well, then make up your mind as to whether or not they have any links at all to the Israelis. ”

Dont be a condescending douche . I’ve already done all the research I need to do to come to my conclusions. The brotherhood is just another way to achieve the same goal from a different vector.

Why would the Saudis be fearful of Sharia law when their whole country is an embodiment of it ? Are the women not subjugated ? Do they not execute people ? Isnt alcohol forbidden ? Isnt Islam the only religion allowed ? How is that any different from Sharia ?

Willing Conscience (The Truths

You’re right I am being extremely condescending and so I should be, your ignorance on the topic you’re talking about is overwhelming, the Muslim Brotherhood isn’t an Israeli devised or backed organization, and it’s not trying to destroy the Muslim world, it’s trying to unite the Muslim world against Israel and the western powers including Russia, so stop reading conspiracy theories and look at what’s really happening.

You don’t read English very well do you, I never ever said the Saudis are fearful of Sharia Law [how the hell did you read that in my comment], everyone knows the Saudi’s have Sharia Law already, what I did say is the Saudis and other Islamic monarchies [except for Qatar] are going to have their heads chopped off when the Muslim Brotherhood takes over, that’s what the monarchs are scared of.

” They want to depose all Islamic monarchies like the Saudis, UAE, Jordan, Kuwait, ect,”

I actually said that I was personally opposed to Sharia Law, and I also said if it wasn’t for the fact the Muslim Brotherhood is demanding Sharia Law in all Islamic Nations I’d be backing them, I’d actually support them in their endeavours to do all the other things they want to do, which as I listed in my previous comment are these objectives,

“The Muslim Brotherhood is the one Islamic organization that wants to unite both Sunni and Shia under one Islamic banner,
They want to depose all Islamic monarchies like the Saudis, UAE, Jordan, Kuwait, ect,
They want to instal democratic systems in ALL Islamic Nations,
They want to force Israel out of Palestine,
They want to stop western powers [including Russia] meddling in worldwide Islamic affairs,
AND THEY WANT TO IMPOSE SHARIA LAW ON EVERY SINGLE ISLAMIC NATION.”

And as I said I agree with the Muslim Brotherhood when it comes to all their demands except for the last one, which was impose Sharia Law on all Islamic nations.
And even though I agree with the Muslim Brotherhood’s objective to force Israel out of Palestine, I only mean the occupied territories, I no longer believe Israel has to be destroyed or dismantled, there’s way too much water under the bridge for that now, 3 generations of Jews born in Palestine make that impossible, negotiation and cooperation is the only way to solve the problem now.
So as I’ve already said,
find out what the Brotherhood says about themselves,
and then find out what their enemies say about them,
and then see what independent sources say about them,
and then read the conspiracy theories last,
Then I won’t have to be condescending.

BlueHeadLizard

I hear you. I had a lot of respect for Mursi in Egypt. Is he the first only democratically elected leader in Egypt ever? I believe Mursi sincerely wanted to improve the life of Egyptians in contrast the parasitic army dictatorship worse than Franc’s Spain. Also brokered a peace deal between Palestine and Israel to end a nasty war, that ended a lot of suffering.

But yea Sharia Law ‘uber alles’ is a show stopper. Also the if a Muslim leave Islam of free the punishment is death according to many Islamic scholars and texts; this is way to harsh and against human rights of freewill and freedom of thought. Human rights adopted by the UN i.e. world wide debated, agreed and ratified. Add that to the fact every child of a Muslim is born Muslim ( no baptism needed) so denying freedom of choice at birth. Brainwashing, from birth to death, goes to whole new level.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

Yes freeing people from one form of oppression with another form of oppression is never the right answer, especially if they’re the sort of people who chop your head off if you don’t agree with them, or if you want to leave them.

John Brown

Fog of war I think they are zio disinfo trolls.

Just ask them to post some proof and they lose it they are done.

Fog of War

Who are the trolls ?

John Brown

Willing Conscience and the truths from the looks of it.

John Brown

Yes you got it. Good for you.

Always better to post proof with links please.

BlueHeadLizard

Also the whole Gulf region, including Saudi, still looking for Gas pipelines to Europe which need to go through Syria?

John Brown

There we lots strings attached basically giving to ISIS and Israel what they could not win through war. Taking the money would mean all who died for Syria died for nothing.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

There were no strings attached to the deal as far as I’m aware, and the fact it wasn’t even publicly acknowledged means we’ll probably never know what the deal really entailed.
Before 2017 the Saudis, Israelis and Isis were all on the same side, since 2017 the Israelis and the Saudi’s have been on Assad’s side, it may not look like it but that’s the way it’s turned out.
Israel and the Arab League realized they made the biggest mistake siding with the Muslim Brotherhood, they thought they could use them to get what they wanted, but from 2017 they’ve both realized that’s impossible, now they’ve switched to the other side because they now desperately !!!NEED!!! Assad to remain in power.
If Assad goes the Muslim Brotherhood takes his place, and that’s not acceptable to anyone but Turkey, Iran, and the opposition factions, and for Israel and the Saudi’s it’s completely unacceptable.
I have to keep saying it, “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”.

John Brown

There were no strings attached to the deal as far as I’m aware,

I have nver hard of anyone giving away billions of dollars with no strings attached.

since 2017 the Israelis and the Saudi’s have been on Assad’s side,

What a joke!

“the enemy of my enemy is my friend”.

Yes and Israel is the enemy of all of humanity.

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Willing Conscience (The Truths

It was a billion dollar loan, not a gift.
If you think Israel is a bigger threat to humanity than the Muslim Brotherhood is then you aren’t paying attention to what’s really happening, because apart from all the countries they have ongoing conflicts in, Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Libya, and Azerbaijan, they also meddle in other peoples political affairs as well, and not just in majority Muslim countries, countries like France and Britain have found out the hard way just how powerful the Brotherhood is. In some areas of England they’re demanding Sharia law be introduced, and after just a few more generations of 10 children each, I’m sure they’ll have Sharia law in effect in some areas of England.
I don’t like a lot of things Israel does either buddy but I know which group is now the biggest threat to Syria, and it’s no longer Israel, but worse still they’re also a huge threat to any Muslim Nations who don’t want to live under Sharia Law, and even western countries like mine who have big Muslim populations living here, though my country fairs a lot better than some European countries, our Muslim population is far more reasonable and vote according to their conscience and not Erdogan’s latest political decree.

You posted that so called Jewish hate propaganda but I wonder if you’ve ever read the original scriptures, the scriptures the Jewish people used to abide by before the homsexual Pharasees took over the religion 3 or 4 thousand years ago.
The original Hebrew religion forbade the killing of anyone or anything full stop, Adam and Eve were vegetarians.
Jews couldn’t kill anything, not other Jews, not other people, and not even animals, their bible told them they couldn’t even put a rope around an animal and tether it, just make a barn for it to sleep in, and rape was forbidden too, but alas all things change, the Pharisees amended all those old religious laws the same way modern lawers change legal laws, and what you posted is the result of all those amendments, and now the LGBTQ Pharisees are doing the same to western society.

John Brown

Ok well letse keep score.

Racist supremacist Jews have murdered over 250 million Goyims in multiple holocausts shoahs and enslaved hundreds of millions more and kill countless more every singe day .

What has the Muslim brother hood done???

Willing Conscience (The Truths

They’ve done heaps,
Thousands of Russians were victims of the Muslim Brotherhood in the 90’s,
200 Russian school children were burnt alive or blown up in one terrorist action,
and the massive death toll at the Russian theatre [partially self inflicted],
and the countless other Russian victims of the Chechen Russian war,
kidnappings and beheadings, bombs in the streets of Moscow,
that’s why the Russian have the Muslim Brotherhood listed as a terrorist organization.
Trumps trying to list them as terrorists too.
And look at all the places they have a political and military interest,
Iraq, stealing oil and occupying Iraqi territory, and cooperating with the Kurdish KRG against the Iraqi Government and the Kurdish PUK.
Yemen, they back the illegitimate Government.
Syria, they back an illegitimate Syrian Interim Government and finance local opposition to the legitimate Government,
Libya, they back the illegitimate Government installed by the UN
Azerbaijan, they’re just plain meddling in affairs that don’t even concern them, and causing bloodshed when there’s absolutely no need for it,
So if you think their involvement in any of those countries is a good thing I have to disagree, Assad himself keeps saying the Muslim Brotherhood is the biggest threat to Syria and always has been, and I completely agree with him.

John Brown

They’ve done heaps,

What is this? Is it your idea of a joke?

Please real evidence not heaps and because.

Chechen Russian war,

This was sponsored by ZATO the racist supremacist global Jewish Satanic Slave empire dictatorship Same when Georga attacked Russia.

Yemen, they back the illegitimate Government.

Syria, they back an illegitimate Syrian Interim Government and finance local opposition to the legitimate Government,

Who are they?

Is this how you buy you buy your T.V. your car etc?. Somebody somewhere said because.

You need to learn how to make a coherent argument.

Why don’t you read how it is done in court.if you want to be taken seriously.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

You truly are one very ignorant person aren’t you.
The Chechen Russian war that you knew absolutely nothing about wasn’t sponsored by NATO or Israel as your BS claim implies, the Russians know exactly who caused it, they branded the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization because of that war, you’re so stupid and ignorant you don’t even know the history of the country you support, that’s pathetic.

If you don’t know who the Muslim Brotherhood are just ask President Assad, he’ll tell you exactly who they are and what they’ve done in Syria, and he’ll also tell you what they’re still doing, he talks about them all the time and has a mountain of comments relating to their activities.

You’re an anti truth troll John Brown that has absolutely no idea what’s really going on, and on top of that you troll people for simply asking questions that you don’t like, so go read an LGBTQI magazine and let people who deal in truth and not fantasy talk to each other without you interrupting with more of your ignorant assertions.

LOL, ZATO caused the Chechen rebellion, LOL you ignorant dickhead.

LOL, who are the Muslim Brotherhood, LOL, you ignorant dickhead.

You need to ask some coherent questions if you want a coherent argument from me.

John Brown

Hello,

Again, links, references, and numbers please. I know the numbers you talk of, why don’t you? Why can’t you post them with real evidence? They are a fly spec compared to hundreds of millions of innocent Goyims dead and you know it.

If you are giving opinion say so, don’t say it is fact.

No cares what I say or anyone else says. Everyone wants to see the proof, the facts, the evidence.

I change my opinion to suit the facts, I don’t try to warp the facts to suit my opinion.

The evll which either controls you, decives you or you serve is going to be defeated.

Nazism and Zionism are two sides of the same Talmudic coin

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They also founded the Bank of International Settlements together.

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Willing Conscience (The Truths

I spent 30 years of my early life looking at the same type of stuff you just posted, and back then I used to believe most of it, then bit by bit less and less of it became believable, eventually I realized quite a lot of the stuff I was reading was just propaganda, some of it wasn’t though.
You blame the Jews the way I used to also blame them when I was young, but now I’m older I say the homosexual Pharisees took over the Hebrew religion at least a thousand years before Christs time, and they’re the ones who changed the Hebrew Laws into the perversions they are now.
If you read genesis from the Hebrew Torah in it’s original form you’ll find humans aren’t allowed to kill any other living creature at all, we can only eat grasses and seeds and fruits, so we all have to be vegetarians.
And as for Goyim, if you actually read what their original Hebrew bible has to say it unequivocally states all men are descended from Adam and therefore we’re all related to each other, and then further stipulate that means we’re all part of the one family no matter how different we look to each other.
When you get bored one day and have nothing to do just research the subject ‘original Hebrew Genesis’ and also ‘changes in the Hebrew genesis from original scripture’, in particular on the subjects of murder and rape.
I told you the homosexual Pharisees took over the Hebrew religion and totally perverted it, what you link is just homosexual/Pharisee perversion, it’s not the original text that early Hebrews abided by, in fact Jesus rebelled against the Pharisee perversion and wanted all Jews to return to abiding by the old original Laws, and some Jews do abide by the original Laws, especially the vegetarian Jews.
And people like me who aren’t Jewish and have no known Jewish DNA in the system, I also abide by some of those Laws, I don’t kilI and eat animals, and I don’t tether them either unless I have to keep them safe.
So I love their old bible, it’s the same as the Hindu and Buddhist religions, you can’t kill anything and we should all be vegetarians, a perfect message from the 3 old religions.
The Pharisees are still here in modern times too, but now we call them the LGBTQI movement, and they’re still doing what they’ve always down, amended the laws to suit themselves, now men can marry men and women marry women, and have families too, you can also change your sex [pretend to you can’t really], marry a robot or a blowup dummy, and soon possibly even marry your pet cat.
So do the research I suggested and tell me if you can tell a difference between what the Pharisees did to the Hebrew religion 2 to 3 thousand years ago, and what the LGBTQI movement is doing to western society in our current era, but only when you’re really bored.

John Brown

As for being pro anti or hating or blaming, this is you not me. Nothing beats the multiple voluntary confessions. I present
irrefutable real evidence from Israeli sources. I am not saying anything none of it is my words at all.

If I post about hurricanes causing floods, damage deaths etc., does this make me anti or pro hurricane??

I can say such damage is negative and should be avoided in the future and those who suffered by compensated. Again this do not make me pro or anti hurricane.

If I say it is -45 outside or +45 outside does it make me pro heat or pro cold or anti cold or anti heat??

These are facts and reality.

Don’t take my word for it, see for yourself. Again nothing beats the voluntary confessions.

I suggest you study the Israeli media. I can give you the sites to go to. It is where I get almost all my info. You’ll see them admitting things that would never make it into the Jewish owned American / Western media, and if you’re not up on the Zionist, racist, supremacist, global Jewish Satanic slave empire dictatorship,a nd their rantings of hatred and racism for all
Goyim and bragging of their murdering and genocide of hundreds of millions of goyim and their total control of countries like the USA, Britain France, Germany etc. in their global empire, it can be quite enlightening, indeed.

So tell me, are the Israeli media, Are the Israeli media, the Times of Israel Y Net News, the Jerusalem Post etc.
top rabbis, Jewish historians,Tel Aviv University etc. lying, Are they anti-Jewish??

Any European who likes Hitler is a brainwashed fool and a useful idiot for their Jewish slave masters. Hitler worked for and with racist supremacist Jews. Hitler was responsible for the deaths of 30 million Russians who were white europeans, end of story. Hitler continued the work of Yagoda as per his master Rothchild’s orders.

Racist supremacist Jews committed the greatest holocausts / shoahs in human history including the killing 66 million innocent Soviet citizens. There are 66 million dead victims of Nazi Jews and 100 million africans in the black holocaust shoah and 400 years of the Jewish slave trade in the Americas. World Jewry, racist supremacist Jews who committed the greatest multiple holocaust’s shoah’s in human history killing 66 million innocent Soviet citizens and 100 million Africans in the black holocaust shoah and 400 years of the Jewish slave trade in the Americas.

Justice demands world Jewry should pay 100 trillion dollars in reparations to Africans and 66 trillion to Russians and other former Soviet republics your victims.

That is just the start a there are now 250 million plus victims to compensate.

As Jews have established the principal of collective guilt and punishment for German’s and European in general so it will
be used on them. All the wealth of world Jewry should be confiscated until the 300 trillion-dollar bill is paid in full.

66 Trillion in reparations from world Jewry for the Soviet holocaust 66 million murdered by racist supremacist
Jews 100 trillion from world Jewry for the African holocaust 100 million murdered 400 years of slavery by racist supremacist Jews Just to start as there are many other holocausts to pay for. 5000 Goyim holocaust movies TV specials on what racist supremacist Jews did to innocent Goyims murdering over 300
million plus, slavery, mass rape etc.

All schools and media on the plant to teach of the Goyim holocausts committed by their tribe.

The leaders to be put on trial like the Nuremberg trials for crimes against humanity

So, 300 plus trillion in reparations to the Goyim. The seizure of all property and assess of world Jewry. This will happily solve the wealth inequality of the world where the .01% world Jewry own more than they should over 505 of the wealth of the planet through exploitation and criminality.

Racial quotas on Jews in all professions as again Jews have established the precedent of collective guilt to for any #
of Europeans in any profession over their number in the general population means it is because of racism so they will be banned from over representation lose license etc. so Goyms can be promoted over them.

Also make 10,000 plus Goyim holocaust movies and T.V series on what racist supremacist Jews did to innocent Goyims
murdering over 300 million plus, slavery, mass rape etc.for the next 500 years showing what racist supremist Jews have done to all Goyim the multiple holocaust slavery etc.

Goyims holocaust museums beside every synagogue.

This Is not vengeance, it is what Jews say should be done when these things are done to them. Its bout deterrence, it’s
about never again having Jew commit holocausts and Shoahs against innocent Goyims.
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John Brown

So tell me, are the Israeli media, Are the Israeli media,
the Times of Israel Y Net News, the Jerusalem Post etc. top rabbis, Jewish historians,Tel Aviv University
etc. lying, Are they anti-Jewish??

Tnetnews is Israel’s most comprehensive, authoritative daily
source in English for breaking
news and current events from Israel and the Jewish world and
they admit the 66 million murdered in the Soviet Union by racist supremacist
Jews .
The Greatest Mass Murderers of all Time were Jews, says
Jewish Columnist
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
Racist supremacist Jews killed 66 million Goyims in the
Soviet Union.
We mustn’t forget that some of greatest murderers of modern
times were Jewish
Sever Plocker|Published: 12.21.06 , 23:35
Here’s a particularly forlorn historical date: Almost 90
years ago, between the 19th and 20th of December 1917, in
the midst of the Bolshevik revolution and civil war, Lenin signed a decree
calling for the establishment of The All-Russian Extraordinary Commission for
Combating Counter-Revolution and Sabotage, also known as Cheka.
Within a short period of time, Cheka became the largest and
cruelest state security organization. Its organizational structure was changed
every few years, as were its names: From Cheka to GPU,
later to NKVD, and later to KGB.

We cannot know with certainty the number of deaths Cheka was responsible for in its various manifestations, but the number is surely at least 20 million, including victims of the forced collectivization, the hunger, large purges, expulsions, banishments, executions, and mass death at Gulags.

Entire peoples, population strata were eliminated:
Independent farmers, ethnic minorities, members of the bourgeoisie, senior
officers, intellectuals, artists, labor movement activists,”opposition
members” who were defined completely randomly, and
Countless members of the Communist party itself.
In his new, highly praised book “The War of the World,
“Historian Niall Ferguson writes that no revolution in the history of mankind devoured its children with the same unrestrained appetite as did the Soviet revolution. In his book on the Stalinist purges, Tel Aviv University’s Dr. Igal Halfin writes that Stalinist
violence was unique in that it was directed internally.
Lenin, Stalin, and their successors could not have carried
out their deeds without wide-scale cooperation of disciplined “terror
officials,” cruel interrogators, snitches, executioners, guards, judges,
perverts, and many bleeding hearts who were members of the progressive Western
Left and were deceived by the Soviet regime of horror and even provided it with
a kosher certificate.
ll these things are well-known to some extent or another,
even though the former Soviet Union’s archives have not yet been fully opened
to the public. But who knows about this? Within Russia itself, very few people
have been brought to justice for their crimes in the NKVD’s and KGB’s service.
The Russian public discourse today completely ignores the question of “How
could it have happened to us?” As opposed to Eastern European nations, the
Russians did not settle the score with their Stalinist past.
And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school
without ever hearing the name “Genrikh Yagoda,” the greatest Jewish
murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU’s deputy commander and the founder and
commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin’s collectivization
orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His
Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. After Stalin no
longer viewed him favorably, Yagoda was demoted and executed, and was replaced
as chief hangman in 1936 by Yezhov, the “bloodthirsty dwarf.”
Yezhov was not Jewish but was blessed with an active Jewish
wife. In his Book “Stalin: Court of the Red
Star”, Jewish historian Sebag Montefiore writes that
during the darkest period of terror, when the Communist killing machine worked
in full force,
Stalin was surrounded by beautiful, young Jewish women.
Stalin’s close associates and loyalists included member of
the Central Committee and Politburo Lazar
Kaganovich. Montefiore characterizes him as the “first
Stalinist” and adds that those starving to death in Ukraine, an
unparalleled tragedy in the history of human kind aside from the Nazi horrors
and Mao’s terror in China, did not move Kaganovich.
Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist
revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We’ll mention just one
more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD’s special department and the
organization’s chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist.
In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of
those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of
Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next
purges. In a fascinating lecture at a Tel Aviv
University convention this week, Dr. Halfin described the
waves of soviet terror as a “carnival of mass murder,” “fantasy
of purges”, and “essianism of evil.” Turns out that Jews too,
when they become
captivated by messianic ideology, can become great
murderers, among the greatest known by modern history.
The Jews active in official communist terror apparatuses (In
the Soviet Union and abroad) and who at times led them, did not do this,
obviously, as Jews, but rather, as Stalinists, communists, and “Soviet
people.” Therefore, we find it easy to ignore
their origin and “play dumb”: What do we have to
do with them? But let’s not forget them.
My own view is different. I find it unacceptable that a
person will be considered a member of the Jewish people when
he does great things, but not considered part of our people when he does
amazingly despicable things.
Even if we deny it, we cannot escape the Jewishness of
“our hangmen,” who served the Red Terror with
loyalty and dedication from its establishment. After all,
others will always remind us of their origin.
Alexander Solzhenitsyn. Speaking from personal experience as
a Gulag prisoner,
Solzhenitsyn gave a candid account of Jews in charge of the
Soviet prison camps in his book, Two Hundred Years Together. According to his
observations, Jews
made up a clear preponderance in the Gulag administration
and in the early Bolshevist government, saying that of the 22 ministers in the
first Soviet government three were Russian, one Georgian, one Armenian and 17 were Jews. In
addition, he points out, from personal experience once
again, that “two thirds of the Kiev Cheka” (secret police) were Jews. Is Y-net news lying? Are they anti Jewish.
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Tommy Jensen

Where is this “the original Hebrew scriptures”?? This is bs.
The Torah is said to be originally written by Moses in Paleo-Hebrew because this was the language Moses spoke, but this version and nothing of Moses written something exist.
The first Torah was written on basis of Masoretic scrolls from 943 BC translated into modern Hebrew. Moses lived around 1425 BC.
Thus there is 500 years from Moses existed to someone Masoretes translated and wrote into Masoretic/Modern Hebrew what Moses should have done and said in Paleo-Hebrew.
The first real Torah was Greek in 300 BC and said to have been used by Jesus.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

Did you miss the dead sea scrolls revelations, they’re written mostly in ancient Hebrew or Aramaic with only very small sections in Greek, and they mostly date from around three hundred BCE to the first century CE, so between 2,300 years ago to 1,900 years ago, and some of the other manuscripts possibly date from as much as 800, BCE, so possibly up to 2,800 years old.

The Masoretic scrolls you refer were written long after Jesus’s time in the 9th century CE, so only 1,100 years ago, I think you’re confusing CE and BCE.
CE, Current Era refers to the year 0 in our timeline onwards, so 2020 years ago and counting forwards, and BCE Before Current Era refers to dates prior to the current era, and they count backwards in time before 2020 years ago,
so 100 BCE means 2,120 years ago and 100 CE refers to a date 1920 years ago, and 200 BCE refers to a date 2220 y/a and 200 CE refers to a date 1820 y’a.

This is the best translation of the Original Hebrew Torah and it’s composed from thousands of manuscripts that were written from between 2,800 years ago to 1,900 years ago. They were written down but they’re called the old Oral laws, and they say you can’t kill anything, not people or animals or anything, we all have to be vegetarians, and the old Oral Laws also say you have to accept all people as your relatives no matter how differently they look from you, because as it states we all come from adam and Eve so we’re all just a part of one big extended family.
Compare the old Oral Laws to the new Written Laws, the old Oral laws say you can’t kill anything and the new Written Laws say you can, and the Pharisees that Jesus hated were the people who amended the perfect old Oral Laws into the perversions some Jews call the new Written Laws.
The LGBTQI organization took over the Jewish religion 3 to 4 thousand years ago, before they took over there was only the old Oral Law, after them the new Written Law was introduced, so I suggest you find out the difference.
Jesus only obeyed the old Oral Laws and shunned the newer Pharisee amended Written Laws, he rebelled against the homosexual takeover of the Jewish faith and wanted the Jews to return to only obeying the old Oral laws, sadly the Pharisees had him killed and then they took over the new Christian religion as well, now they’re trying to take over the whole world, so just watch how they behave in the US now that Trump’s most likely lost the election, Americans will be able to marry a cat or a dog soon, and maybe even make babies if science can help them do it.
Here’s a real translation of the original Oral Laws Jesus obeyed, the real Laws Moses delivered to the Hebrew people.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-tanakh-full-text

https://www.mechanical-translation.org/

There’s another really good site but I can’t find it on google so look for more.

Jews Christians and Muslims can’t kill anyone or anything if they want to obey the same Laws that Adam and Eve, Moses and Jesus obeyed, which are the old Oral laws, not the new Pharisee rewritten Laws that most modern Jews, Christians, and Muslims obey.

I don’t BS Tommy, sometimes I’m wrong but I never ever BS.

And I do believe the old Oral laws that Moses delivered are actually the real words of God the creator, and I know they’re real because my conscience tells me they’re real, God gave me my conscience so I could understand the real word of God, and I use my God given conscience to understand what God tells me, the old Oral laws don’t contradict with my conscience but the new Pharisee perversions do, they conflict with my conscience in exactly the same way the new LGBTQI movement does.

Tommy Jensen

I agree. I see it the same way as you. We can feel when things are right.
The bible says “we are made in God’s image, thus we have the ability to evaluate whether something is consistent with the idea of the creation namely love as the crown.
Not because explicit the bible says it, but because what is described in the bible, is something we can recognize and relate ourselves to, its truthfulness.

And thanks for the links.

Tommy Jensen

You are right. I mistoke the years.
I use BC (Before Christ) and AC (After Christ) to make it simple as there are many labels.
So its worse than I thought. The Dead Sea Rolls is said to be from 300-400 BC and can therefore only have been written in modern Hebrew..
Moses speaking paleo-Hebrew living 1450 BC, so 1000 years passed before some wrote something about Moses………………………LOL.

Have someone pulled our arses again? I have to give this bs a couple of time and thoughts.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

The dead sea scrolls were mostly written in biblical/classical Hebrew and Aramaic [the language Jesus spoke] with just a few sections in Greek, so not modern Hebrew, and the texts cover a period mostly from 300 years before Christ to 100 years after Christ, but some sections go back to 800 years BC.
And it’s not known which language Moses spoke, there are several possibilities, the languages have changed many time over the last few thousand years so it’s hard to know the truth.
I was always taught the best way to preserve knowledge accurately was to write it down, but after thousands of years and many changes in the written language I can see for myself that’s not the case, things change so drastically you wouldn’t even know the 2 stories are the same.
Aboriginal people have managed to keep an oral tradition going for 50 to 80,000 years, and they’ve stayed pretty true to the original storyline, so maybe the written word isn’t superior to the spoken word after all.

Tommy Jensen

It was Jewish tradition before Babylon.
The idea is to transfer universal truth which will prevail forever back in you head. If you write it down you immediately have 717 politicians and academics who will make thousands of thick books and it unrecognizable.
Truth is simple, ie the water cycle, a globe circulating the sun, man and woman, etc, when we know it.
When the Jews was split, banned from Jerusalem, they did the forbidden, started to write the secrets down in the Talmud, afraid of losing it by being spread.

But the end of the day, there is around 1000 years empty air between Moses and the oldest scriptures. Dead Sea scrolls:
Created Est. 408 BCE to 318 CE
Discovered 1946/47–1956.

Tommy Jensen

I know MBH set up health cliniques and schools in poor areas of Egypt, and thats why they were/are respected as an alternative, as the heavy egyptian government bureaucracy did nothing.

John Brown

You posted that so called Jewish hate propaganda but I wonder if you’ve ever read the original scriptures, the scriptures the Jewish people used to abide by before the homsexual Pharasees took over the religion 3 or 4 thousand years ago.

Those Jews became Christians and have nothing to do with the fake Jews of today.

They follow the Talmud and Torrah and they have nothing to do with the bible. They are satanists.

See one of many examples

‘I SEE IT LIKE BUDDHISM. SATANISM IS SOMETHING THAT CAN CO-EXIST WITH BEING A JEW’

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-haunted-salem-a-jewish-church-founder-preaches-the-art-of-satanic-social-change/

Hence, Synagogue of Satan.
Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

I don’t need a satanic Jews telling me what the word of god is. Satan quotes the bible for evil purposes.

According to satanists, christians must never
defend themselves and all lie down to be exterminated by racist supremacist satanic Jews, 66 million in Russia alone 100 million africans in the black holocaust of 400 years of slavery. With such logic there would be no christians
and no humans, which is clearly not what christ wanted. Jesus did use violence against the money changers like you, Jesus cast out demons etc Maybe demonic mind control tricks work on morons with weak will and no faith. Next you will be saying it is discrimination not not to have satan in the church to replace Jesus because it is what Jesus wanted.

Not all Jews are evil and they are not responsible for all
the evil in the world. According to Israeli polling about 90% are evil racist supremacists like you and evil racist supremacist Jews evil are only responsible for about 90% of the evil in the world. The confession. In haunted Salem, a Jewish church founder preaches the art of ‘Satanic’ social change. Is the Time of Israel lying???

https://WWW.TIMESOFISRAEL.COM/IN-HAUNTED-SALEM-A-JEWISH-CHURCH-FOUNDER-PREACHES-THE-ART-OF-SATANIC-SOCIAL-CHANGE/

At a former funeral home in a town inextricably linked to
witchcraft, secular Jew Malcolm Jarry opens a new heaquarters for his Satanic
Temple, a controversial movement with up to 50,000 members worldwide
By MATT LEBOVIC26 October 2016, 4:36 pm56

You can’t make this shit up

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-haunted-salem-a-jewish-church-founder-preaches-the-art-of-satanic-social-change/

shares A bronze statue of the Satanic icon Baphomet, currently
residing in a shed outside The Satanic Temple in Salem, Massachusetts
(Courtesy)

SALEM, Massachusetts — Just in time for Halloween, a
controversial Satanic temple has set up its international headquarters in
Massachusetts’ beloved Salem.

Located one-mile from historic sites tied to Salem’s 1692
witchcraft hysteria, the building

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The Satanic Temple in Salem,
Massachusetts, with a sign for its Satanic art gallery and rainbow flag,
September 2016 (Matt Lebovic/The Times of Israel) For the 49-year-old Jarry,
there is not much conflict between being Jewish and a Satanist. As a matter of
fact, the two identities have come to inform each other, he said. “I see it
like Buddhism,” said Jarry. “Satanism is something that can co-exist with being
a Jew,” he said. — a former funeral home — was inaugurated last month by
activist Malcolm Jarry, a self-described “secular Jew” who co-founded The Satanic Temple (TST) in 2013. Jarry is a pseudonym, and he refuses to be
photographed.comment image
The temple houses an art gallery in honor of Baphomet, a
“sabbatic goat” representing the universe. Behind the two-story building, an
eight-foot tall statue of Baphomet sits in a plain shed, where visitors can pay
to view it.

With up to 50,000 members in chapters around the world, TST
has garnered colossal media attention in the last three years. Chief among
Jarry’s causes are marriage equality and women’s reproductive freedom. Any
issue related to the government using religion to restrict individual freedom
is also likely to engage temple leaders, some of whom staged a 2014 “Black
Mass” at Harvard University to push the envelope on religious freedom.

Outside of New England, TST has taken legal action against
the placement of edifices of the Ten Commandments in civic settings, including
statehouses. To illustrate how such displays violate religious freedom, the
temple has insisted it be allowed to erect goat-headed Baphomet statues in the
same locations. TST is also planning to take on some schools’ use of isolation,
denial of bathroom access, and corporal punishment of children.

The Satanic Temple in Salem, Massachusetts, with a sign for
its Satanic art gallery and rainbow flag, September 2016 (Matt Lebovic/The
Times of Israel)

For the 49-year-old Jarry, there is not much conflict
between being Jewish and a Satanist. As a matter of fact, the two identities
have come to inform each other, he said.

“I see it like Buddhism,” said Jarry. “Satanism is something
that can co-exist with being a Jew,” he said.comment imagecomment image
How Jews mock Christ
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?tab=wm#search/sarah+silverman/15dc744f1b5b37f0?projector=1
Racist supremacist Jews Jesus was evil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c860sezKnzY

part 2.5

How Jews mock Christ https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?tab=wm#search/sarah+silverman/15dc744f1b5b37f0?projector=1
Racist supremacist Jews Jesus was evil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c860sezKnzY
Jews burn and spit on man preaching Jesus in Jerusalem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTLctRe0edk See very good videos of how racist
supremacist Jews treat Goyim
http://www.thejewishchronicle.net/pages/full_story/push?article-Sephardi+leader+Yosef-+Non-Jews+exist+to+serve+Jews%20&id=9964937
http://www.jta.org/2010/10/18/news-opinion/israel-middle-east/sephardi-leader-yosef-non-Jews-exist-to-serve-jews
For some more proof, these links below on Jewish racism and
supremacism. JEWISH FORCED STERILIZATION of blacks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZFTvvFpKUQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCPF3mSloBk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=yle_qeeOIMAcomment imagecomment image
In addition to Jarry’s belief that Judaism and Satanism can
co-exist, there are parallels with how Judaism and Satanism have been branded
by their detractors, he said.
“The false accusations that have been thrown at Jews
historically are similar to what some people say about Satanism,” said Jarry,
mentioning accusations of blood libel and — more recently — fabricated
allegations that Israel perpetrates genocide against Palestinian children.
“I do not accept when people delegitimize Israel or use lies
to marginalize Israel,” said Jarry. “I am an unwavering supporter of Israel, so
long as it remains democratic, pluralistic, and protects human rights.”
‘Satanic Panic’
Satanists, for the record, do not believe that Satan exists.
Derived from the Hebrew root for “adversary,” Satan is viewed as a symbol, not
an idol or deity.

An early depiction of the ‘sigil’ for the Church of Satan,
as envisioned by Anton LaVey (Public domain)
The Church of Satan was founded by Jewish-born Anton LaVey
in 1966. Known in his heyday as “the black pope,” LaVey seeded “grotto”
churches around the country, and Hollywood figures including Sammy Davis Jr.
joined the church. (Davis had converted to Judaism in 1961.)

As the “sigil” for his movement, LaVey adopted an inverted
pentacle surrounded by the Hebrew letters for Leviathan, a sea monster featured
in the Old Testament. From the center of the pentacle glares the half-human,
half-animal Baphomet, both female and male, intending to symbolize the harmony
of the universe.

During the 1980s, “Satanic Panic” set in, and the church was
accused of ritual abuse and criminal activity. LaVey was labelled a dangerous
charlatan by critics, and many of his life stories were exposed as fraudulent
after his 1997 death. Having once been called “the world’s most notorious
religion,” the church’s last big hurrah was a Satanic High Mass, held in Los
Angeles on 6/6/06 for its 40th anniversary.

Free speech is the light
racist supremacist satanic Jews fear. In order for their evil to grow they need
darkness. In the light of free speech their
evil diesas everyone will recognize them for what they are, evil servants of
their lord Satan god of lies. So are the Times of Israel and the Jerusalem Post
etc. lying??? You better ban all Jewish
media then, which is all media as Jews own it all, because its where I get all
my info.

Racist Supremacist Jews
Jesus is a bastard Sarah Silverman and they are glad Jesus was killed and would
like to kill him again”??? Do you agree?

if you really were against
all forms of racism exploitation etc. as I am you would agree with me about
Jewish racist supremacism and confront it, condemn it, expose it, as even
holocaust survivors whom I quote do. I have exposed you for what you are.
Instead you do not condemn Jewish racist supremacism, you don’t confront it,
you don’t expose it, instead you try to cover it up, protect it nurture it.

Do you condemn Sarah
Silverman? Should she be charged with a
hate crime and arrested if she ever comes to Germany?
Sarah Silverman I Hope Jews
did kill Christ. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9XUXQGpxqY Sarah Silverman
says “I would kill Christ again”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSrhJGGDqx0

How about the rest? Will you condemn Jewish
racist supremacism, will you confront it, will you expose it or will you try to
cover it up, protect it nurture it? Show us. By the way brother Nathanael a
wonderful human being who use to be a Jew.

How Jews mock Christ
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?tab=wm#search/sarah+silverman/15dc744f1b5b37f0?projector=1
Racist supremacist Jews Jesus was evil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c860sezKnzY

Jews burn and spit on man
preaching Jesus in Jerusalem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTLctRe0edk See
very good videos of how racist supremacist Jews treat Goyim
http://www.thejewishchronicle.net/pages/full_story/push?article-Sephardi+leader+Yosef-+Non-Jews+exist+to+serve+Jews%20&id=9964937
http://www.jta.org/2010/10/18/news-opinion/israel-middle-east/sephardi-leader-yosef-non-Jews-exist-to-serve-jews
For some more proof, these
links below on Jewish racism and supremacism. JEWISH FORCED STERILIZATION of
blacks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZFTvvFpKUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCPF3mSloBk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=yle_qeeOIMA

Being a Goy in a Jewish
State Settlers from KiryatArba verbally abusing Palestinians in the al-Hariqah
neighborhood of Hebron on loudspeaker. When they noticed a B’Tselem volunteer
filming them from her window, they directed racist and obscene language at her,
including threats of extreme sexual violence. Although the threats were
explicit and the swearing constituted severe sexual harassment, Israeli
security forces at the scene allowed the settlers to continue undisturbed, as
is usually the case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvPIg1zWfLY

Sarah Silverman I Hope Jews
did kill Christ. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9XUXQGpxqY Sarah Silverman
says “I would kill Christ again” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSrhJGGDqx0

Kalle Sändare

You seriously believe anyone will read all of those those ravings?
I will make it simple for you. There is a satanic component to every religon including the jews, which is what Jesus was referring to, There is also a lot of people with good faith in all religons. The fight is between good and evil, Lucifer and Christ consiousness. Get it?

John Brown

So the Israeli press media top Israeli historians are ravings. you better arrest yourself.

They are forensic evidence good for convictions in court beyond a reasonable doubt

Nothing beats the multiple hundreds, thousands etc. of
voluntary confessions with evidence given freely . I present irrefutable real evidence from Israeli / Jewish sources. I am not saying anything, none of it is my words at all. Are the Israeli media, the Times of Israel Y Net News the Jerusalem Post etc. top rabbis etc. lying,

Are they anti-Jewish??

To all Goyims on this board if you don’t already I suggest you study the Jewish Press – the ones based in Israel – in order to get a full understanding of what they (Kalle Sandare and the master Jewish race) routinely plan in respect to the Stupid Goyim. Don’t take my word for it, see for yourself.

From their own lips

Are you one of the satanic zio christians?

The good Jews became Christians and the evil ones murdered Christ and today they are satanists who say they would murder Christ again. Note they say all these things not me.

There is also a lot of people with good faith in all religions

Does that include satanists? Did good people murder Christ? Would you do it again?

Is murdering over 250 million Goyim ok???

Thanks to the terrible power of our International Banks we have forced the Christians into wars without number. Wars have a special value for Jews, since Christians massacre each other and make more room for us Jews. Wars
are the Jews’ Harvest: The Jew banks grow fat on Christian wars. Over 100-million Christians have been swept off the face of the earth by wars, and the end is not yet.’ (Rabbi Reichorn, speaking at the funeral of Grand Rabbi Simeon Ben-Iudah, 1869,

See your future in hell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTHssFg7i_g

Are you aware at least 150,000 Jews served in the Nazi army?

The Nazi regime conferred honors on many of the
100,000 Jews who fought in the German army in the Great War, even on some who had already escaped to Palestine.

They won’t be teaching this in any schools of the empire. Only in its capital Israel.

https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/features/.premium-1.602868

Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s knowledge and approval.

Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler’s soldiers, including

Two field marshals, (God knows how many Jews they killed)
Fifteen generals, (God knows how many Jews they killed)
Two full generals,
(God knows how many Jews they killed)
Eight lieutenant generals, (God knows how many Jews they killed)
Five major generals, “commanding up to 100,000 troops
In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross. One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht
throughout the war.

One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch’s Jewish identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.

To understand the Zio policy to force Jews to immigrate to Israel in Europe and around the world.

Ben-Gurion said after Kristallnacht in reaction to a British
decision not to permit 10,000 Austrian and German Jewish children to go to Palestine but instead to offer them refuge in Britain. He stated: ”Were I to know that all German Jewish children could be rescued by transferring them to England and only half by transfer to Palestine, I would opt for the latter, because our concern is not only the personal interest of these children, but the historic interest of the Jewish people.”

Many Iraeli PMs have said the same thing if you want the quotes.

Hitler was funded and put in power by racist supremacist Jews rothschilds Rockafellars etc. (the USSA Federal reserve, the bank of England and the bank of France with
hundreds of billions of dollars FACT! As was Lenin..Hitler was the father of Israel with the Nazi /Zionist HAAVARA, agreement.

Without their ally Hitler there would be no Jewish immigration to Israel and no Israel today and no Jewish world domination today. Hitler hated Europeans. In the Havara agreement pact Hitler and his Zionist allies agreed it was HIlters job
to chase Jews out of europe to Palestine and to to kill any Jews who would not go to Israel.

In the Havara agreement pact Hitler and his Zionist allies agreed the Nazis had chase Jews out of erupoe and kill any Jews who would not go to Israel.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/haavara
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/haavara

Hitler was then ordered by his Jewish masters to attack Russia and Poland and exterminate over 50 million white Europeans, 30 million of whom ,were Russians for any morons who think Hitler liked white people, actions speak louder than words.

Hitler was to finish what racist supremacist Jews under Yagoda started when they killed over 66 million innocent Soviet citizens.

The HAAVARA, agreement a company for the transfer of Jewish property from Nazi Germany to Palestine. The
Trust and Transfer Office Haavara Ltd., was established in Tel Aviv, following an agreement with the German government in August 1933, to facilitate the emigration of Jews to Palestine by allowing the transfer of their capital in the form of German export goods.

The Haavara Agreement is an instance where the question of Jewish rights, Zionist needs and individual rescue were in deep tension. Jewish organizations outside of Germany had declared a boycott against German goods and hoped to delegitimate the Nazi regime. The Zionists saw this agreement as a way of attracting Jews to Palestine and thus
rescuing them from the Nazi universe even if that meant cooperation with Hitler. For a time the Nazi program of making Germany Judenrein and the Zionist policy of seeking olim coincided. The amounts to be transferred were paid by
prospective emigrants into the account of a Jewish trust company (PALTREU – PalestinaTreuhandstellezurBeratungdeutscherJuden) in Germany and used for the purchase of goods, which the Haavara then sold in Palestine. The proceeds, in
Palestine currency, were paid to the emigrants living in Palestine. The rate of exchange was adjusted from time to time by the Haavara according to the disagio, necessitated by the subsidy which the Haavara granted the Palestinian
importers, to make up for the steadily deteriorating value of the Reich mark, so the German goods could compete with other imports.

The ensuing disagio, borne by the emigrants, accordingly increased from 6% in 1934 to 50% in 1938. The
major part of the transfer proceeds provided the 1,000 Palestine Pounds (then $4,990) necessary for a
“capitalist” immigration certificate of the Mandatory administration, but also for other categories of immigration, such as Youth Aliyah, students, and artisans as well as for the transfer of public funds. The transfer weakened the
boycott of German goods declared by many Jewish organizations around the world, and thus met with considerable opposition. The controversy was settled at the Zionist Congress in Lucerne (1935)
which decided by a vast majority in favor of the transfer and
placed the Haavara under the supervision of the *Jewish Agency . The Zionists sought to attract immigrants to Palestine, most especially the affluent German Jewish immigrants and the Germans sought to get rid of their
Jews, increase their exports and

Here is the big joke here

The Haavara continued to function until World War II, in spite of vigorous attempts by the Nazi Party to stop or curtail its activities.

As if the Nazi dictatorship could not end this any time the Nazis wanted it to unless they are admitting the
Nazis had Jewish bosses who would not let them end it.
BIBLIOGRAPHY:
E. Marcus, in: Yad Vashem Studies,
2 (1958), 179–204; S. Esh. in: Am Yisrael be-Dorenu (1964), 330–43; L.
Pinner, in: In zwei Welten (1962), 133–66. ADD. BIBLIOGRAPHY: E.
Black, The Transfer Agreement: The Dramatic Story of the Pact between Nazi
Germany and Jewish Palestine (2001).
[Ludwig Pinner]

Hitler’s Rabbi, One of these men was Major Ernst Bloch, the focus of Rigg’s second book – “Rescued from the Reich: How One of Hitler’s Soldiers Saved the LubavitcherRebbe.”
Price is also working on a film version of this sensational story. read more:
https://www.haaretz.com/1.4902179
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/.premium-when-hitler-honored-jewish-soldiers-1.5254336

A German soldier in Nazi uniform strolls in the park hand-in-hand with his Jewish grandmother, the yellow “Jude” star
on her coat. A Nazi officer is dispatched by the German high command to rescue the Lubavitchrebbe

Tommy Jensen

You have a link to all the evil, but not a single one on what you call “the original scriptures”.
Isnt it better to promote truth in form of “the original scriptures” than to point out eveil and failures?
I should like a link please :-).

John Brown

Yes you are right, but 99% of people won’t get.

You have to start teaching 2 and 2 is 4.

You can’t go to calculus, functions, algebra etc., before people can add, subtract, multiply etc.it won’t work.

Isn’t good supposed to defeat evil?

Its about defeating evil.
Do you want to defeat evil or not?

Tommy Jensen

You cant defeat evil by pointing out evil, and then leave it to people to figure out good by leaving out good.
You could point to the many examples of good in the /torah/bible: Love is the strongest force on earth. comment image

So you are making reference to a link you dont have. Why? Because they dont exist.
Moses lived 500 years before anything was written about him. Moses stories were told mouth to mouth in this period per Jewish tradition.

John Brown

You are full of it. Just keep score to see who is evil its very easy. Racist supremacist Jews have murdered about 300 million Goyims and Jesus. Who comes close to that? No one.

I know you are a Zio reverse speak psycho linguistic mind control expert when you spout lies like today’s fake Jews follow the bible which they do not. Any Rabbi will confess to this. They follow the Talmud / Torah (the Satanic bible) made after they murdered Christ.

Matthew 27:25
“Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSrhJGGDqx0

Tommy Jensen

?? I spout lies? About false Jews follow the Bible?? I dont get you.

I were just asking you for a link to your “ancient Hebrew scriptures”, and you explode in anger, sidesteps and accusations.
You “ancient Hebrew scriptures” dont exist. The earliest we have is the Aleppo scrolls around 950 BC in a language mix of masoretic and modern Hebrew missing 40% of the pages.
Moses spoke Paleo-Hebrew and lived 1450 BC.

Anyway. Any misunderstanding of the text or origin can be proved by its text.
Does the text provide some universal wisdom or not.
If the text provide eternal wisdom we say its divine.

So I agree with your statement about adam and eve and early real jews. We are not here to murder plus.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

You’ve spent a lot of time and effort to convince me of many things I’m already aware of, so I hope you put just as much effort into helping the Palestinian people directly.
I’m 56 y/o now and spent the first 53 being totally anti Israel, then I started to soften a few years ago and realized I’m only an anti Zionist, I don’t hate all Israelis just because some of them are pure evil, some Israelis are as good as anyone else I’ve ever met, and some try harder than most to solve the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.
You posted me nothing but post Pharisee propaganda, and that’s been going on since before the time of Christ. Christ in fact rebelled against the Pharisee dominated Hebrew faith, he actually wanted the Jews to adhere to the old original commandments that Moses was supposed to have delivered, and in the original Hebrew texts Jews couldn’t kill or rape anyone, Jew or Gentile.
In fact the original Jews just like Adam and Eve couldn’t even kill an animal because it was considered sinful, they were all vegetarians. Their religion even said it was sinful to put a rope around an animal, so a lot’s changed since the Pharisees took over, they did to the Hebrew faith exactly the same thing the LGBTQI movement is trying to do in our modern era, turn everything upside down and amend the laws to get what they want, which is nothing but perverse sickness.
I hate the same people you do so make no mistake, the only difference between us is I don’t lump all Israelis in with the bad people you hate, and even some of the ones I disagree with aren’t really evil, they’re just too used to people like you condemning them, and now they put up a defensive mechanism to protect themselves from abuse.
I don’t mind you hating some Jews or their Government, or the ones who control the US bureaucracies, but not all Jews are bad, you have to learn not everyone can be tarred with the one brush, because condemning the Israeli religious Zealots for doing what they are but then doing exactly the same thing they are doesn’t make you any better than them, it makes you exactly the same as them.
They say you’re a Goyim and you say they’re evil Jews, so both of you lump everyone in together and feel it gives you the right o treat all the members of the other group as if they weren’t human, so what’s the difference between you and a Zionists, apart from the fact you’re not Jewish.

John Brown

Actually no. I write very little its mostly cut and paste. Nothing comes from me.Its not my words.

No one cares what I say or anyone else says. Everyone wants to see the proof, the facts, the evidence.

I change my opinion to suit the facts, I don’t try to warp the facts to suit my opinion.

I get my information and posts from Jewish sources and I use them over and over as all the disinfo trolls, the brainwashed say the same things with no proof.

To all Goyims on this board if you don’t already I suggest you study the Jewish Press – the ones based in Israel – in order to get a full understanding of what they, the so called master race routinely plan in respect to the Stupid Goyim. Their bragging and voluntary confessions etc..

Don’t take my word for it, see for yourself. Nothing beats the voluntary confessions and bragging. They can undo a life time of brain washing in days.

It is where I get almost all my info. You’ll usually see them admitting things that would never make it into the Jewish owned American or Western media, and if you’re not up on the
Zionist, Jewish, racist, supremacist, global satanic slave empire dictatorship, their rantings of hatred and racism for all Goyim and bragging of their murdering and genocide of hundreds of millions of goyim and their total control of countries like the USA, Britain France, Germany etc. in their global empire

it can be quite enlightening, indeed.

I can provide some very good links to websites if you wish

Willing Conscience (The Truths

“Actually no. I write very little its mostly cut and paste. Nothing comes from me.Its not my words.”

And I’m the opposite, I dissect what I’m told and offer my own assessments, and only cut and paste/link to confirm, you should try thinking for yourself too.

“No one cares what I say or anyone else says. Everyone wants to see the proof, the facts, the evidence.”

You’re wrong, some people do care what you say, the Russian Government follows these forums very carefully, they like you know what all our opinions are, they probably have more people researching the data from these forums than SF has writing the stories.

John Brown

If you want people to read your posts and take your posts seriously provide and post the proof, with links and references etc., and let them decide what they believe.

You read my posts for this reason.

No one cares what I think or say but they do want to know what I know so I show them.

Thanks to the terrible power of our International Banks we have forced the Christians into wars without number. Wars have a special value for Jews, since Christians massacre each other and make more room for us Jews. Wars are the Jews’ Harvest: The Jew banks grow fat on Christian wars. Over 100-million Christians have been swept off the face of the earth by wars, and the end is not yet.’ (Rabbi Reichorn, speaking at the funeral of Grand Rabbi Simeon Ben-Iudah, 1869,

Willing Conscience (The Truths

It’s the quality of the link that counts, some of yours are just mindless propaganda sites, and I avoid those like the plague.

John Brown

OK show me which posts are mindless propaganda.

This comment applies to your posts not mine as you spout mindless zio propaganda with no facts because facts and realty don’t support what you say.

One wonders why you did not say which are no good with the links in the first place?

Again you present yourself as a disinfo troll, trying to avoid facts as much as possible.

This is what liars do as facts and reality don’t support lies.

Nothing beats the multiple voluntary confessions and bragging. I present irrefutable real evidence from Israeli /
Jewish sources. I am not saying anything, none of it is my words at all. Are the Israeli media, the Times of Israel Y Net News, the Jerusalem Post etc. top rabbis, Jewish historians,
Tel Aviv University etc. lying, Are they anti-Jewish??

Don’t take my word for it, see for yourself. Again nothing beats the voluntary confessions.

I suggest you study the Israeli media. I can give you the sites to go to. It is where I get almost all my info. You’ll see them admitting things that would never make it into the Jewish
owned American / Western media, and if you’re not up on the Zionist, racist, supremacist, global Jewish Satanic slave empire dictatorship, and their rantings of hatred and racism for all Goyim and bragging of their murdering and
genocide of hundreds of millions of goyim and their total control of countries like the USA, Britain France, Germany etc. in their global empire, it can be quite enlightening, indeed.

ynetnews is Israel’s most comprehensive, authoritative daily source in English for breaking news and current events from Israel and the Jewish world. I ask you, are they lying? Are they anti-Jewish?

Stalin’s Jews
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

We mustn’t forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish

Sever Plocker|Published: 12.21.06 , 23:35

Here’s a particularly forlorn historical date: Almost 90
years ago, between the 19th and 20th of December 1917, in the midst of the Bolshevik revolution and civil war, Lenin signed a decree calling for the establishment of The All-Russian Extraordinary Commission for Combating
Counter-Revolution and Sabotage, also known as Cheka.

Within a short period of time, Cheka became the largest and cruelest state security organization. Its organizational
structure was changed every few years, as were its names: From Cheka to GPU, later to NKVD, and later to KGB.

We cannot know with certainty the number of deaths Cheka was responsible for in its various manifestations, but
the number is surely at least 20 million, including victims of the forced collectivization, the hunger, large purges, expulsions, banishments, executions, and mass death at Gulags.

Whole population strata were eliminated: Independent farmers, ethnic minorities, members of the bourgeoisie,
senior officers, intellectuals, artists, labor movement activists,
“opposition members” who were defined completely randomly, and countless members of the Communist party itself.

In his new, highly praised book “The War of the World, “Historian Niall Ferguson writes that no revolution in the history of mankind devoured its children with the same
unrestrained appetite as did the Soviet revolution. In his book on the Stalinist purges, Tel Aviv University’s Dr. Igal Halfin writes that Stalinist violence was unique in that it was directed internally.

Lenin, Stalin, and their successors could not have carried out their deeds without wide-scale cooperation of
disciplined “terror officials,” cruel interrogators, snitches,
executioners, guards, judges, perverts, and many bleeding hearts who were members of the progressive Western Left and were deceived by the Soviet regime of horror and even provided it with a kosher certificate.

All these things are well-known to some extent or another, even though the former Soviet Union’s archives have not
yet been fully opened to the public. But who knows about this? Within Russia itself, very few people have been brought to justice for their crimes in the NKVD’s and KGB’s service. The Russian public discourse today completely ignores
the question of “How could it have happened to us?” As opposed to Eastern European nations, the Russians did not settle the score with their Stalinist past.

And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name “Genrikh Yagoda,”
the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU’s deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin’s collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least
10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. After Stalin no longer viewed him favorably, Yagoda was demoted and executed, and was replaced as chief hangman in 1936 by Yezhov, the
“bloodthirsty dwarf.”

Yezhov was not Jewish but was blessed with an active Jewish wife. In his Book “Stalin: Court of the Red Star”, Jewish historian Sebag Montefiore writes that during the darkest
period of terror, when the Communist killing machine worked in full force, Stalin was surrounded by beautiful, young Jewish women.

Stalin’s close associates and loyalists included member of the Central Committee and Politburo Lazar
Kaganovich. Montefiore characterizes him as the “first Stalinist” and adds that those starving to death in Ukraine, an unparalleled tragedy in the history of human kind aside from the Nazi horrors and Mao’s terror in China, did not move Kaganovich.

Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity.
We’ll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD’s special department and the organization’s chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist.

In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet
security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges. In a fascinating lecture at a Tel Aviv University convention this week, Dr. Halfin described the waves of soviet terror as a “carnival of mass murder,” “fantasy of purges”,
and “essianism of evil.” Turns out that Jews too, when they become captivated by messianic ideology, can become great murderers, among the greatest known by modern history.

The Jews active in official communist terror apparatuses (In the Soviet Union and abroad) and who at times led them, did not do this, obviously, as Jews, but rather, as Stalinists,
communists, and “Soviet people.” Therefore, we find it easy to ignore their origin and “play dumb”: What do we have to do with them? But let’s not forget them. My own view is different. I find it unacceptable that a person will be considered a member of the Jewish people when he does great things, but not considered part of our people when he does amazingly despicable things.

Even if we deny it, we cannot escape the Jewishness of “our hangmen,” who served the Red Terror with loyalty and dedication from its establishment. After all, others will always
remind us of their origin.

Alexander Solzhenitsyn. Speaking from personal experience as a Gulag prisoner, Solzhenitsyn gave a candid account of Jews in charge of the Soviet prison camps in his book, Two Hundred Years Together. According to his observations, Jews made up a clear preponderance in the Gulag administration and in the early Bolshevist government, saying that of the 22 ministers in the first Soviet government three were Russian, one Georgian, one Armenian and 17 were Jews. In addition, he points out, from personal experience once again, that “two thirds of the Kiev Cheka” (secret police) were Jews.

They murdered 66 million innocent people, Christians, Muslims etc .

Billions of People Oblivious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK9wgvgmcHQ
The Red Pill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ1_IbFFbzA
Welcome To The Desert Of The ReaL
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Kalle Sändare

I read somewhere that British intelligence founded the Brotherhood way back in WW1, Lawrence of Arabia and so on.
Are they not really the globalist/satanic arm in the whole worldwide Jihad? This is why they are so powerful, I believe they work with that new pope as well..Now that is a powerful alliance.
On a diffrent note, what happens with the oil Trump says he controls in Syria? I cant believe he is stealing it.
Greetings from Sweden

John Brown

I read somewhere????

Are you kidding. You call I read somewhere proof? That ranks up there with because I say so.

If you have no proof just say because you say or don’t mention it as it make you to be a fool or a liar or both..

Willing Conscience (The Truths

Are you unable to read what the lady wrote, what did she say that warrants you claiming she’s trying to prove anything, she simply asked some questions, and apart from her assertion the Pope works with the Brotherhood, which by the way is correct [though not in an underhand way], she didn’t make any other assertions.
Her one assertion is correct, the new Pope has been formulating stronger ties with the Islamic faith, it’s been one of the Popes most noteworthy endeavours, and since the Muslim Brotherhood is the most unified organization in all of Islam, the Pope himself directly deals with the Muslim Brotherhood, and he has announced an alliance of sorts, it’s an alliance to try and end discrimination against the Muslim populations living in Christian countries, but sadly the Pope doesn’t demand the same rights for Christians living in Muslim countries.
You’re actually the fool and liar, you’re claiming she said something she didn’t say at all.
I suggest you re read her comment and pay attention to what she did actually say [and asked], and then if you have any decency at all apologise for your totally uncalled for and very rude remark.

John Brown

If you are giving opinion say so, don’t say it is fact.

No cares what I say or anyone else says. Everyone wants to see the proof, the facts, the evidence.

I change my opinion to suit the facts, I don’t try to warp the facts to suit my opinion.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

You can’t tell fact from fiction, all you know is “the Jews did it”.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

Hi Kalle, this is what the Wiki says,

“The Society of the Muslim Brothers, better known as the Muslim Brotherhood, is a transnational Sunni Islamist organization founded in Egypt by Islamic scholar and schoolteacher Hassan al-Banna in 1928.[7] Al-Banna’s teachings spread far beyond Egypt, influencing today various Islamist movements from charitable organizations to political parties—not all using the same name.
Initially, as a Pan-Islamic, religious, and social movement, it preached Islam in Egypt, taught the illiterate, and set up hospitals and business enterprises. It later advanced into the political arena, aiming to end British colonial control of Egypt. The movement’s self-stated aim is the establishment of a state ruled by Sharia law–its most famous slogan worldwide being: “Islam is the solution”. Charity is a major propellant to its work.”

Which contradicts the theory British Intelligence created them, but in saying that there’s always collusion when the situation dictates a temporary alliance, the Arabs wanted the Ottomans out and the British wanted them out too, so there is a link between good old Lawrence of Arabia [great movie] and the Brotherhood, but that doesn’t mean British Intelligence created them.
If you read what the Arab League have to say they claim the Brotherhoods origins go back even further than 1928, they claim the initial ideology began nearly 200 years ago, so a hundred years before the date the Wiki claims they were, I tend to believe the Arab League’ version, they should know the truth better than anyone.
The Muslim Brotherhood want to break the yoke of western Imperialism by uniting all the Islamic Nations of the world, originally it was only a Sunni quest but it’s now morphed into a Shia and Sunni quest, so the Brotherhood want to unite all factions of Islam under one big banner.
On top of that they want to depose all the Islamic monarchies [like Jordan and Saudis ect], and replace them with democratic systems of governance, which sounds good but they also place Sharia Law as the top tier of government, which means you can’t change some Laws no matter how unjust they are, which isn’t really democracy at all, especially if you don’t believe in or belong to the Islamic faith.
The Arab League accuse the Muslim Brotherhood of direct control of nearly all the major Islamic terrorist organizations all around the world, the Mujahideen and Taliban in Afghanistan, Al Qaeda all around the world, Al Nusra Front in Syria, Boko Horan in Africa, and Isis all around the world, so if they’re right [and I believe they are], they are the most powerful force in the world atm, at least politically they are.
You can compare them to NATO in one sense, politically they have even more power than NATO does and are quickly gaining the military power as well, the Brotherhood is aiding conflicts in Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Libya, and Azerbaijan and in all front’s they’re either maintaining ground or winning, they’re not losing on any of those battlefronts, so they’re immensely powerful in a political sense and to a much smaller extent militarily as well.
And they don’t just have political power in the Islamic Nations, they also have a political voice in many Western countries as well, especially Europe. Muslims in England and France tend to vote according to Muslim Brotherhood decrees and are very clever at taking advantage of the political systems, domestically they demand Sharia Law to be introduced into majority Muslim areas and vote on international issues [sanctions, wars, embargoes, trade deals ect] according to whatever the latest Brotherhood news letter suggests, whether they’re a normal Muslim voter or a powerful Muslim politician, they are the real 5th column some European Nation now have living amongst them.
I don’t think Trump wants or needs Syrian oil, at the most the US can only make 120 mill a year from selling Syrian oil, but it cost the US 1.5 billion a year to stay in Syria [a bit less now possibly] so if you do the simple maths you can understand why Trump wants to get out altogether, he has to spent 1.5 bill to steal 120 mill a year, that doesn’t make sense to even a stupid businessman, I’m glad you don’t believe he’s stealing the oil for profit but many people do, perhaps they can’t do the maths.
Greetings from Australia too, and thanks for the pertinent questions, knowledge is power and questions like yours help increase knowledge. So get on the computer and research some of the things I claim, decide for yourself what the truth is concerning the Brotherhood, you may not agree with everything I believe but that’s ok, you can come to your own conclusions if you do enough research. There’s mountains of data available from both sides, so you can read what the Brotherhood has to say and then compare that to what you see on the ground, and as I said in Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Libya, and Azerbaijan they’re showing us what they’re really like, they chop peoples heads off if you disagree with them.
Cheers.

John Brown

Wiki is not proof.

I can go and change what you posted from wiki right now

Willing Conscience (The Truths

I said you don’t read anything properly didn’t I, this is exactly what I said,

“If you read what the Arab League have to say they claim the Brotherhoods origins go back even further than 1928, they claim the initial ideology began nearly 200 years ago, so a hundred years before the date the Wiki claims they were, I tend to believe the Arab League’ version, they should know the truth better than anyone.”

Did it sound like I agreed with the Wiki version did it, damn, I was so sure I was saying I believed the Arab League version instead of the Wiki version, oh well, I’ll try even harder to make myself clearer next time, but I’ve got no idea how I’m going to do it if you didn’t understand that simple statement, Phew.

John Brown

Hello

Ok well lets keep score. Racist supremacist Jews have murdered over 250 million Goyims in multiple holocausts shoahs and enslaved hundreds of millions more and kill countless more every singe day .

What has the Muslim brother hood done???

Thanks to the terrible power of our International Banks we have forced the Christians into wars without number. Wars have a special value for Jews, since Christians massacre each other and make more room for us Jews. Wars are the Jews’ Harvest: The Jew banks grow fat on Christian wars. Over
100-million Christians have been swept off the face of the earth by wars, and the end is not yet.’ (Rabbi Reichorn, speaking at the funeral of Grand Rabbi Simeon Ben-Iudah, 1869,

Willing Conscience (The Truths

And I’ll bet a lot of rabbi’s are still saying the same thing now, but then again so do a lot of other politicians who like making money out of arms sales and keeping unruly neighbours in check.
Bad people are bad people no matter where they live, some live in Israel but most don’t, they live in all the other countries around the world too, perhaps in differing ratios of good and evil but all countries have a measure of both good and bad people and politicians.
Some of Russia’s Tyrannical allies have been accused of burning people alive, setting rabid dogs on them, imprisoning political opponents for life ect, so does that make them better or worse than the US allies the Saudi’s, or does it mean they’re exactly the same.

John Brown

No doubt yes other groups kill murder etc

However lets get to the numbers.

250 million plus vs the blank as you don’t give a number.

So you lose by default.

You seem to say don’t worry about the locusts destroying the earth worry about the mosquito that killed 1 person.

Are you serious or just brain washed or brain dead?

You need to come up with better lies.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

If you called me a liar to my face you stupid homosexual I’d knock every one of your teeth out.

You’ve spouted absolute nonsense that’s as far from the truth as it can be, you have no knowledge of current events and talk about things you know nothing about, and then you call me a liar for telling the truth and call other forum users liars just for asking questions [she asked questions and you called her a liar], piss off you simpleton.

Your answer to everything is “the Jews did it”, that’s just a braindead comment if ever I heard one, and now your trying to brainwash me with anti Israeli propaganda, but I know exactly what the Israelis are responsible for and what they’re not responsible for.
Is Assad or Putin saying Israel’s prolonging the war?, is anyone else?, please link me proof Israel’s responsible for the continuing hostilities in the occupied territories, if you can’t then your just a liar, and a very stupid one at that.
From everything I read I can see Israel’s totally opposed to Erdogan’s invasion of Syria, they want Erdogan and the Muslim Brotherhood to get out, not stay there and keep fighting.

John Brown

Yes you have nothing, Hence all you can do is threaten etc.

You know I am right. If I told you 2 and 2 is 64 would you get mad? No because you know it is wrong.

If you are giving opinion say so, don’t say it is fact. You can so you think the tooth ferry is real because you say so, its up to you. Free will. However your life will be difficult when it is not based upon reality. .

No one cares what I say or anyone else says. Everyone wants to see the proof, the facts, the evidence. Thats it.

I change my opinion to suit the facts, I don’t try to warp the facts to suit my opinion.

Your question.

Israel’s responsible for the continuing hostilities in the occupied territories.

You answered your own question.

Yes because Israel occupies them. When Israel leaves and pays reparations the territories will be peaceful.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

I was referring to the Turkish occupation of Syrian territory and the hostilities there, how could you misunderstand that considering the context of the conversation we’ve had for way too long now.
You didn’t answer my question either, link me a post or anything at all that confirms what you said, Israel’s prolong the hostilities in Syria.

John Brown

You reposted that so called pro Jewish hate propaganda but I wonder if you’ve ever read the original scriptures, the scriptures the Jewish people used to abide by before the homsexual Pharasees took over the religion 3 or 4 thousand years ago.

Yes.

Its not from thousands of years ago it is from today.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

Post me a link to your version of original Hebrew Genesis, I’ll prove you’ve never ever read it, that’s a dare, all you’ve ever read is homosexual perversions the Pharisees added, and that started a thousand years before Christs time.
Prove you’ve read the original texts in the properly translated forms, link to a site please.

Fog of War

” Post me a link to your version of original Hebrew Genesis, ”

The main foundational stories of the ” Hebrew genesis ” are stolen directly from much older Sumerian tales. Look it up.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

You could’ve just as easily searched for it yourself you know, so now as a punishment you have to read another one of my bibles. :]
This is the best translation I can find in the short time I have, so search for others because there are better ones that explain things in even more detail.
I’ll also suggest you find some scholarly articles concerning the literal translation of the original texts in their original language, it’ll make understanding what you’re reading a lot easier, the old language is completely alien to the way most modern languages are spoken/written.
And if you also want to know exactly how the original version could’ve been perverted into the absolute abomination it is today, find out how the Pharisees perverted it with their constant amendments, see how it changed from perfection to LGBTQI perversion.
Jews don’t run the world the LGBTQI movement does, and they started their takeover of the world about 3 to 4 thousand years ago, and it started with the takeover of the Hebrew faith.
Jesus tried to get the Jewish people to return to obeying the old original scriptures but the Pharisees had the Romans kill him, and sadly the LGBTQI took over the Christian religion too, and now the Christian bible says you can kill and eat just about anything.
Originally the Christian followers [unlike most Jews] !!!ONLY!!! obeyed the original Laws that Moses delivered.
And the Christians also purposely shunned all the newer Pharisee amended Laws that most other Jews adhered to.
So in fact the original Christians were just being good Jews and not changing the religion at all, they were just returning to the old faith and letting most other Jews adhere to the newer perverted Pharisee inspired version of !!!PRETEND!!! Hebrew Law.
But just like the original Hebrew faith was perverted so to has the faith we call Christianity, both are abominations to the oldest and original Commandments.

So the original version of the Hebrew religion, the Hindus, and the Buddhists all believe killing is a sin, not men nor beasts should be killed, we should all be vegetarians, so I think our ancestors were a lot wiser than we are today, the 3 main religions of the world all say the same thing, I wonder why.
I obey the commanded word of God from 3 different religions, do you, if not you should.
Here’s the link,

http://www.qbible.com/hebrew-old-testament/genesis/

Fog of War

” I obey the commanded word of God from 3 different religions ”

Thats fine and dandy. Those three religions rest on tales much older, the oldest one we know of coming from the Sumerians. Always seek the ” source ” of the well.

And In case you’re interested I follow the Creator.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

Creator, another perfect word for God.
The creator teaches us the difference between good and evil through our conscience, I hope you use yours to understand the real words/feelings of God, we all have a conscience no matter what religion we start with.
Yes many of the old Sumerian tales are covered in the old Hebrew Bibles, that’s true for the ancient Egyptian religion as well.

Fog of War

” Yes many of the old Sumerian tales are covered in the old Hebrew Bibles, that’s true for the ancient Egyptian religion as well. ”

Not covered. Stolen and altered, Which nullifies the Biblical interpretations. Like I said, go to the source not some Hebrew forgeries.

Willing Conscience (The Truths

It doesn’t nullify Genesis or the interpretations of the message, which is the topic that was being discussed, so tell me, after reading the original verses in their least adulterated form, don’t you agree that the original religion was a good religion and not he perversion it is nowadays.

Tommy Jensen

The Sumerian was only the first with written tales and stories that human kind could find.
A much older secret cradle of civilisation dated around 6000 BC was found, but has been kept secret for the public as these laws are eternal secrets through spirit.

Parts and fragments of this cradle of humanity and eternal secrets can be found in the confused written down stories on primitive stones and papyrus of the Sumerians, later Egyptians and Irish.
Remember, writing anything in The Sun is easy, but not all is of value………..LOL.

Fog of War

” but has been kept secret for the public as these laws are eternal secrets through spirit. ”

But you know of them of course special one.

Stev60

Maybe the Arab League is good for something after all.

BlueHeadLizard

The Arab league has no military clout but ‘who has the money makes the rules’.

Mustafa Mehmet

So what the Arab League going to do about it? They are all the slaves to western Power…..

Willing Conscience (The Truths

I can’t tell you what they’re going to do about it, I can just tell you what they’ve already done.
At the start of 2017 the Arab League changed its mind and said Assad could remain in power, not officially but representations started in earnest.
By mid 2017 King Abdullah brokered a reconciliation agreement between the Syrian Government and 3 of the opposition groups in southern Syria, the Southern front alliance 60,000 strong and 2 other large Arab militias 10,000 strong in total, so 60,000 fighters stopped fighting Assad due to Arab League orders.
Then in mid 2018 both Israel and the US both said they no longer wanted to remove Assad from power.
Also mid 2018 Trump told the FSA fighters, 35,000 strong to reconcile with Assad, when they refused Trump sacked them all and kicked them out of Al Tanf. He also told the opposition the US wouldn’t assist them if they refused to reconcile with the Syrian Government, and he didn’t when they refused to stop fighting.
Israel agreed to allow Russian and Syrian forces to launch a campaign against the FSA, HTS and Isis in July of 2018 and their only condition was they didn’t want Iranian forces anywhere closer than 60km from the Israeli border, Iran cheated and put it’s fighters on the front lines but was caught out, and the Israelis let them get away with it.
At the end of that campaign King Abdullah of Jordan closed his borders on Assad’s request and trapped the FSA, HTS and Isis in Daraa and Quneitra, which allowed the SAA to totally annihilate them.
Then in 2019 the Saudis started spending hundreds of millions on Turkish opposition media outlets and opposition parties, all in an effort to curb Erdogan’s political ambitions, but that didn’t work out to well and ended with Turkey revelations about the Saudis complicity in the disappearance and murder of the journalist Khashoggi.
But the most important thing they’ve done is reinstitute diplomatic ties with the Syrian Government, most of the League Nations have been making a beeline towards the Syrian embassy since 2019, Assad’s accepted some offers of reconciliation and refused others.
The League have offered to pay for and supply UN peacekeeping forces in Idlib Latakia, Hama, Aleppo and Idlib, Assad refused again.
The Saudis entered a new trade war with the Russians to try and get them to stop helping Erdogan, they cut the price of oil to just above Russian profit levels, and the only thing that saved them was Putin’s request to Trump to force the Saudis to stop.
And since the start of this year HTS has renounced Jihad in Syria and vowed to pursue a political course, which has put them in direct conflict with the Muslim Brotherhood, Al Nusra Front, Al Qaeda, Isis, and Turkey.
So they’re all the things the League has done for Assad since 2017 and there’s probably a lot more too that I’m not aware of, Israel and the US didn’t just change their minds for the hell of it, the Arab League changed their minds.
So as much as you’re right to say the League have been western puppets for most of their existence, I’ve noticed they seem to be the one’s dragging the US and Israel in behind them lately, at least when it comes to the fight against the Muslim Brotherhood and Erdogan, so something’s changed in the old dynamic.
The Muslim Brotherhood aren’t the good guys, they sounded like they were but now they’ve proven they’re just like everyone else, or worse.

Ryan Glantz

lmao! you guys are amazing, that erdogon pic in the beginning is great!

HitlerWasRight

such a shame that putin is such a coward, he lets armenian people get genocide by the turk jew drones because the pm is an asshat

cechas vodobenikov

Kurds in Armenia? Doubtful: the Kurds collaborated w turkeys in the great genocide in 1915

Stev60

Ataturk-Hitler-Stalin – Who remembers the Armenians?

Erdogan-NAZIO-RuSSia – Who remembers Artsakh?

God-Justice-Truth – We do, and we won’t forget those who betrayed, crucified, and genocided the Armenians, ever, the First Christian Nation.