Supporting American Bases In Central Asia Will Be Serious Mistake For Turkey

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Supporting American Bases In Central Asia Will Be Serious Mistake For Turkey

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Turkish government funds anti-Moscow political groups, which tend to threaten peace in Central Asia.

Written by Lucas Leiroz, research fellow in international law at the Federal University of Rio de Janeiro.

Many experts don’t clearly understand the plans for the resumption of a “new Ottoman geopolitics” by the current government in Ankara because they try to look at the country from a purely dualistic perspective, assuming a “Eurasia vs. West” opposition. But, in fact, Ankara is precisely planning to assert itself as a sovereign power with its own zone of influence, which encompasses regions of the Mediterranean, the Middle East and Central Asia. In this game, US, Russia and even China can be allies or enemies depending on the specific situation. Turkey plays for itself. In this sense, concerning Central Asia, Russia and Turkey are enemies.

In fact, few countries in the world have such conflicting interests as those between Russia and Turkey, especially with regard to their disputes in Central Asia. In recent years, Ankara has been turning its eyes to Central Asia, taking a different and ambitious look towards the East. Indeed, Central Asia is gradually becoming an area of ​​interest for Turkey almost as important as the Mediterranean itself. Among the countries that most interest Turkish plans are Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, and Turkmenistan. The aim is to form a major international alliance between countries with a common Turkish ethnic origin, projecting power and influence to consolidate a Turkish “regional space”. For that, however, Erdogan’s bet seems to be the confrontation against Russian or Russian-speaking ethnic groups that inhabit these same countries.

Thus, a conflict of interests emerges with Russia, which wants to continue maintaining influence over the entire post-Soviet space. Both countries have been fighting an increasingly fierce dispute for influence in the region. Reflections of this dispute can be seen in the Nagorno-Karabakh war, for example, but also in “peaceful” situations, such as the constant commercial and cultural tensions. Russia is a great trade partner for every State in that region, while Turkey only achieves a top trade partner status with Turkmenistan.

On the other hand, Ankara invests heavily in soft power and in the cultural industry, building Turkish schools across Central Asia and trying to make the Turkic Council an organization with its own cultural agenda, creating opposition to Russia. Given Russian military supremacy and commercial influence, Turkey has invested in the nationalist cultural industry, forging an “international Turkish identity” to try to undermine the post-Soviet legacy in Central Asia. In this tactic it has also been possible to witness Ankara’s financial and political support for Russianphobic movements in the countries of the region, mainly Kazakhstan, where ultra-nationalist activists have become known recently for demanding the complete abolition of the Russian language.

This was already an extremely deplorable scenario, but now it could become even worse, considering the possibility of a military escalation in tensions. With the dispersal of Afghan citizens to other Central Asian countries, the entire region has become a fertile environment for the emergence of a new route for international terrorism. For months, American think tanks have been suggesting that Washington set up military bases in other Central Asian countries to stop terrorism from advancing after the war in Afghanistan ends. Considering the impact this could have on Russian interests, Turkey – which is also part of NATO – will certainly support the measure and take advantage of the militarization context to create its own bases as well. Whether such a tactic would actually serve to combat terrorism or not, we cannot say at the moment, but it is certainly not the best path to reach international peace, considering the scenario of unnecessary provocations in the Russian strategic environment.

For Ankara, supporting the deployment of US military bases in Central Asia will be a terrible move. If Erdogan really wants to project his country as a sovereign power and “owner” of its own regional space, cooperating with Washington to undermine Russia on purely regional issues is a tactical error. The US never changed its plans to remain a global police force, it just reversed some plans and thought of new tactics. Leaving Afghanistan was profitable because the war was lost, but this is also a pretext for new bases to be deployed in Central America – and, even more strategically, closer to Russia. By supporting this, Turkey will also be undermining its own interests and creating unnecessary military tension with Moscow.

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Augsta

If Turkey tries this they are stupid. The Anglo Saxon plan is to break Turkey up and dissolve it as a nation don’t fall into the trap Turkey . Russia will not allow this rightfully so.

YankeeGoHome

Turkey is on the wrong sideof history. The coming decades will belong to Eurasia. This NATO lapdog with delusions of Grandeur will be defeated in a hot war. Erdogan is a bumbling idiot of magnanimous proportions

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Peppe il Sicario

He thinks he can play one side off the other, but the Turks have never proven to be that intelligent just highly cruel and barbaric. To tell you the truth, if it weren’t for all that Hellenic-Italic DNA in modern day Turks, they’d be still chasing goats around Anatolia. The neo-Ottoman irredentist Turks are in for a rude awakening in the coming years. For Russia, with Erdogan’s meddling in Ukraine, Turkey has just passed the Rubicon and as a reprisal, the Russians are bombing the hell out of the Turkish supported terrorists in Syria and decreasing their combat potential enormously. Russia’s next step will be bombing Turkey proper if Erdogan continues his two-faced foreign policy for the benefit of Uncle Shlomo and his lap dogs.

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Chris Gr

Please stop troll. We dislike Turkey because of politics not because of race or religion. Stop creating hatred.

Peppe il Sicario

You’re just too stupid to shut your mouth and save face. You’d make a better impression by not commenting, really! You fake Greek.

Chris Gr

You have the name of the Sicarii the group that the traitor called Judas was into.

Attila

Ottoman leftover stupid idiots

RaptarDriver

You’re a homo!

Chris Gr

Homo sapiens?

Mees

So called “Italians” today are a product of forced butträpe by greeks, german/celts, arabs, africans…no? Lol

Fog of War

How do you produce offspring from ” butt rape “. Is biology different on your planet ?

Peppe il Sicario

In your pipe dreams, dumb ass! Not that I’m too proud of ancient Roman imperialistic history but we were much much more on the giving end than receiving. Africans, when did they ever conquer Italy? Arabs, Sicily only after 100 years of trying to conquer the island and getting the shit kicked out of them regularly . The Celts? Exterminated. Same goes for Israelites, Dacians, Illyrians etc. etc. Now, go check on your girlfriend who has a nice big fat Italian dick between her legs and one in her mouth.

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block

Apparently certain nations have yet to understand Chinese & Russian patience. What they perceive as weakness is actually strength.

Peppe il Sicario

That’s standard Anglo-Saxon Germanic mentality.

RaptarDriver

To some degree that is very true but some of this is weakness.
Did the Soviet union tiptoe around America?

block

Today it is not about the Soviet Union. It is about a Eurasian group of nations that have successfully contained american & british geopolitical ambitions.

rome is displeased as their centuries of exploitation are being diminished by the day.

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Attila

🖕💨🖕

Micheal Petrovich

i agree with you but i really don´t have a problem with Turkey breaking up into 6 parts.

Chris Gr

No breaking apart. If Turkey breaks apart then Greece is close to this also. One united Greece and Anatolia only!

RaptarDriver

You greeks are pathetic.
You are owned by German banks and the European union.
You are not even a free people yet alone expanding into Anatolia.
I hate the Turks but I have no respect for you so called Orthodox brothers.

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Chris Gr

Troll

Attila

Too much ouzo again. You are nothing but hot air piss off

Chris Gr

Says the aonymous basement dweller…

zoumbarak

The (((anglo-saxon))) plan. Trying to imply that the west globalist powers are anything but jews, jewish puppets, and atheists is simply ridiculous despite being so widespread nowadays.

The Objective

When this author says Turkey should not support U.S military deployments in Asia, the reason he gave for this isn’t convincing to me. For one thing, Russia is Turkey’s enemy however you look at it – both in the Middle East and Asia. Putin’s administration is staunchly anti-Muslim despite the huge Muslim population of Russia.
Any Muslim alliance Turkey creates in central Asia will also be directed against the West, not just Russia – because both America and Russia oppress Muslims one way or the other. I think Turkey supporting American military deployments is a good thing if it furthers the goal of creating this Muslim alliance. Why do I say this?
First, it’ll increase military tension between Russia and America, and that gives Erdogan the leverage to play one against the other to Turkey’s advantage. Secondly, it’ll give Turkey access to new military bases under the guise of NATO, thus increasing its military footprint and ability to deter Russia. Thirdly, it’ll increase Turkey’s leverage over America because Turkey is going to be the dominant political force due to its religious and cultural ties with these countries, which means Turkey having greater influence over the government and public sentiments than America. Such an advantage can deter any future U.S sanctions thereby increasing Turkey’s economic security as the country rises.
America is far more likely to come to terms with a Turkey-led Muslim alliance than Russia. Because Russia is actually more anti-Muslim than America, although many do not realize this. I’ve been following Putin’s moves in the Muslim world. Wherever you find Russian forces, they are always fighting the True Muslims and propping up the hypocrites. America also does the same, but at a shrinking scale. Unlike Russia, America has the dignity of trying to conceal its engagement – for example, in Libya. Russia on the other hand is openly hostile. The Muslim Brotherhood, the largest Muslim organization (which has the greatest support in the Muslim world) is labelled terrorist in Russia but not in America. Labelling the MB terrorist is the same as labelling the entire Muslim world terrorist because almost every “True” Sunni Muslim supports them. Why, because their goal is to overthrow the monarchies and dictators and create a Muslim caliphate. This is why Sisi, MBS, and MBZ are so afraid of them. Almost every major global Islamic scholar openly supports it – from Zakir Naik, to Abduljabbar, Qaradawi, Khalid Yasin, and every Sunni Muslim organization in Europe, America, Asia or Africa. Yet these are the people Russia is at war with in Syria, Libya, soon Egypt, etc.
This reminds me of a hadiths where the prophet said that during the final battle between good and evil, Muslims will ally (temporarily) with the Romans against an enemy that will be attacking them (the Romans). Imran Hussein, the notoriously deviant and propagandist scholar in Pakistan, claims that this referred to Russia but it clearly isn’t Russia.

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Chess Master

I don’t think NATO&Turkey have more to say in that region than China&Russia&Iran. Economically speaking, it’s the fucking silk road.

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The Objective

Yeah, it’s the Silk road, but what you fail to realize is that China has an entirely different agenda and won’t subscribe to any Russian imperialistic plans. Turkey is a far better economic ally to China than Russia. Turkey is rapidly transforming into to the China of Europe. Russia on the other hand lags behind in terms of economic growth, innovation, and development. Just do some Googling. The future of Russia’s economy is bleak. Turkey on the other hand controls the Bosphorus and Mediterranean – two critical areas for China’s Silk road. Pakistan and Afghanistan are also key corridors, but unfortunately for Russia, they are staunchly pro-Turkey.

Chris Gr

Russia supports Sisi and when the islamists rise in Egypt Russia will do something.

The Objective

Yes, they’ll surely rise and that will start a war similar to Syria. This war has been prophesied in the Hadiths. I can see it coming – most likely from Libya. I’ll quote three Hadiths below:

“The Prophet, (upon whom be blessings and peace) said, “A man of the Umayyads will take power in Egypt and then his power will be taken from him, or
wrested from him, and he will flee to Byzantium (the Romans, Europe) and enlist
them against the people of Islam; and that will be the first of the battles (between
the muslims and Europe).” (Tabarani)””

“Abu Zarr said the the Messenger of Allah (saws) said: “There will be, from
Bani Umayya, a man in Egypt (a descendant from the founders of the Ummayid
Dynasty and Abu Sufyan) who will succeed the Sultan (ruler). He will be overpowered or stripped of power. So, he flees to the Romans. He (will then) bring the Romans to the lands of Islam. This is the beginning of the battles (with the Romans
that will lead to the Great War).” (Nuaim bin Hammad, Kitab al-Fitan)”

“Abd Allah Bin Amr Ibn Al-Aas stated that: “If you see a tyrant of the tyrants
of the Arabs fleeing to the Romans, that will be a sign for the Alexandria Battle (to
occur, with the European invasion of Egypt through Alexandria).” (Nuaim bin
Hammad, Kitab al-Fitan)”

“Abd Allah Bin Amr Ibn Al-Aas stated that “If you see or hear about a tyrant in
a city who is overpowered by another, and flees to the Romans, then that is the beginning of the greater confrontations. The Romans will come after the Muslims.”
(Nuaim bin Hammad, Kitab al-Fitan)”

Chris Gr

Romans are also Germans, Greeks, British, French, Russians and many other groups. Many American evangelicals think that in the Gog Magog alliance there will be Russia and China but wrong. Russia is with the Romans, China with the kings of the east. Gog Magog will be the islamist alliance led by Turkey and Iran.

Chris Gr

The common enemy was Soviet Union and China. So that hadith was correct.

YankeeGoHome

Imran Hoosein is an idiot that cannot even understand straight forward eschatalogical ahadith and confuses timelines. Turkey will never lead a Muslim alliance. The current and forseeable future belongs to Iran and its Shia axis of resistance – and Erdogan’s Turkey is ideologically opposed to them. Afpak is consumed by its own issues, notably economic and the threat of India and its destabilisation efforts. It’s unlikely that both countries will emerge from their economic quagmires anytime soon- even when the BRI/CPEC runs at full tilt – it will take a while but destabilisation by US and India will run full tilt too. Iran will grow stronger economically and in the short rather than long term become a nuclear power – it can employ plausible deniability by testing any homegrown Nuke in North Korea – if it hasn’t done so already. It’s homegrown defence industry of key technologies like missiles, anti-missile and drone tech is on par with the best or quickly getting there and the future of warfare is asymmetrical and Iran has years of successful experience to show for it (Lebanon 2006/Syria/Yemen/Iraq) – thanks to great luck in having military genius’ like Soleimani and a cohesive foreign policy that , due to alignment of hardcore elements in the Raisi presidency , can only serve to accelerate the demise of Israel-Saudi-UAE axis of evil. The biggest question for the region is the upcoming war against Israel. As much as Russia hates the Muslim world, it has already assisted it immensely, if not the most, with the propping up of Assad and successful defeat of the Saudi/US/Israeli design. In a hot war with Israel, the axis will succeed and the entire Sunni street will cheer them on, if not send millions to fight alongside (Turkey under Erdogan despite all his anti Israel rhetoric would rather assist Israel) – then what? Palestine will surely be liberated by a Shia army and handed over to Hamas? I don’t think so. Then the fun begins.

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Chris Gr

Turkey will ally with Iran and Pakistan in the end times.

The Objective

Apart from the lack of any authentic Islamic backing, the current situation of Iran doesn’t at all suggest that the future belongs to Iran and its Shiite resistance axis.

Iran is up to its neck in problems. Big problems that threaten the regime’s survival itself. First, Iran’s problems with Israel CANNOT be solved diplomatically. Israel and the Arab monarchies want the complete decapitation of Iran’s regional proxies. All the instability in the middle east can be traced to the militia problem. With these militias, Israel and the monarchies CANNOT afford to ignore Iran.

The other problem is Iran’s nuclear program. This is easier to solve via diplomacy. Because unlike its militias, Iran CAN afford to freeze its nuclear program in return for sanctions relief. But Hezbollah is non-negotiable for Iran.

The second biggest problem for Iran is that America wants to stabilize the Middle East because any regional instability will threaten its puppet regimes and force it to commit more resources in an effort to restore the status quo. But America want to focus on China because China is the biggest threat to U.S global dominance. Deploying limited resources to the Middle East will undermine its ability to counter China. America views Iran as the biggest threat to stability in the Middle East, followed by Turkey.

The U.S understands that Iran’s power comes from the militias, not missiles and nuclear program. Destroy Iran’s militias and you are halfway through destroying the Iranian regime itself. And this is exactly what America is doing – destroying Iran’s militias in the Middle East (gradually). First, it started the Syrian war to cut off Hezbollah. Then it went back to Iraq in 2014 and hasn’t left since then. the PMU is finding it increasingly difficult to maneuver in Iraq. Now America is fomenting another civil war in Lebanon. Anywhere you look, Iran’s militias are coming under increasing pressure. American destroyed Iran’s militia in Afghanistan without firing a single shot. It has largely cut of Hezbollah and made Syria a quagmire for Iran. Today, it’s focusing on Lebanon. Once a civil war start, Hezbollah will waste considerable blood and treasure fighting for its survival. It won’t strike Israel unless in retaliation to an Israeli aggression (which Israel isn’t going to start). This was what Biden meant by his statement: “there’s a smarter way to be tough on Iran”.

Turkey actually has a better chance of liberating the Muslim world than Iran. Why?
1. It has allies that are willing to fight on its side: Pakistan, Azerbaijan, Qatar, Somalia, Libya (part of it). Iran has ONLY militias to rely on. militias with no airfoce, navy, or even professional land forces.

2. Turkey is economically way stronger than Iran and its economic future looks brighter due to its penetration of the African and Asian markets. Iran hasn’t even started. Again, there are more innovations and tech-startups in Turkey than Iran can have in the next two decades.

3. Turkey has a more mature defense industry than Iran. All Iran has got is missiles – no planes, EW facilities, military vehicles, etc. Iran has to buy these things if it wants something of global standards. Turkey on the other hand produces 80% of its military hardware. This figure will be 100% in five year’s time InshaAllah, says Erdogan.

4. Turkey has more support in the Muslim world than Iran. Muslims are far more likely to obey Erdogan than Khomeini. Shiites are only concentrated in a few states in the middle east and Azerbaijan is with Turkey.

Chris Gr

You are wrong on one point. Azerbaijan, Qatar, Somalia and Libya are not strong powers. The strong are Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, Egypt, Indonesia. Then there are Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Algeria and Morocco.

The Objective

Azerbaijan is ten times stronger than Hezbollah economically. It’s also stronger than a Hezbollah without an airforce, navy, or professional land army. Qatar is at least 50 times stronger than Hezbollah economically. Hezbollah is more of a liability for Iran not an ally. Somalia can send thousands of Turkey-trained troops to Turkey in the event of a war. The same thing goes for Libya. These three are not strong powers, but they can contribute plenty to the war effort with troops and money. Iran’s militias on the other hand rely on Iran for almost everything.

Chris Gr

Azerbaijan is stronger than Lebanon but weaker than Syria. Qatar has very weak military.

Sudan under Bashir, Ethiopia under Mengistu, Iraq under Saddam and Syria under Hafiz were strong also but now they have lost power.

Azerbaijan is pro-Iran now. Look at what Aliyev has said about Iran. That they are his brothers. Armenia was abandoned. Armenia should rely on Russia, France, China and India instead.

Somalia and Libya are nothing. Other nations like Yemen or Algeria are much stronger.

Forces like Jordan, UAE, Tunisia and Oman have small armies but very trained and effective.

block

Good comments with the exception of… “As much as Russia hates the Muslim world”.

Russia does not tolerate Muslim extremism. See the Chechen wars as specific examples. Remember Beslan?

Peppe il Sicario

The Muslim Brotherhood is a British Intelligence Freemasonic created group!!! Pure Evil. The Young Turks? Another Freemasonic invention but this time inspired by the Italian Freemasons’, Grand Orient Lodge, under Giuseppe Mazzini’s tutelage, who was the Head of World Freemasonry in the middle of the 1800s. Do you know who runs the lodges in Italy today? The Sicilan Cosa Nostra, Calabrian N’drangheta and Campanian Camorra crime organizations always under the Vatican’s domain.

Chris Gr

Iran is ruled by Muslim Brotherhood.

The Objective

This comment is not by the real “The Objective”

Micheal Petrovich

I don´t know when or how it will start but there will be a war between Russia and Turkey. It’s inevitable

farbat

i dont think that it will be a direct war between russia and turkey but yes turkey is creating festering problems for russia in ukraine and central asia and most of all they create the idea that russians are the enemies of all muslims which is an absurdity and not just islamic sunni but also shia clergy have the opposite view of russia if one would compare russia to the british or french for example even this religious conflict that is festering is turkey and ottomanist but again i doubt that there will be a direct conflict between russia and turkey because we muslims we be liberating turkey as it continues to seek to oppress syria iraq and many other places creating nothing but war and destruction in its path

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The Objective

What is wrong with you man? You misunderstand almost everything. Or you tell outright lies. Let me cross-examine some basic claims you made in this comment and you’ll see just how wrong you are.

First, you say Sunni and Shiite scholars are in agreement that Russia is NOT an enemy of ALL Muslims. This may be partially true for Shiite scholars (who are actually a very small minority in the Islamic scholarly community). Here’s why this is a big lie:

1. All global Sunni scholars are staunchly anti-Dictatorship, especially when it’s mixed with oppression and bloodshed. Not a single “influential” global Sunni scholar supports Assad, Sisi, MBZ, MBS, or Haftar. Russia on the other hand supports all these people and is engaged in violent wars to prop them up. The only Sunni “government scholars” supporting these dictators never justify their support on anything rather than promoting peace and order and preventing bloodshed that accompany the violent overthrow of dictators and monarchies. But they never say dictatorship or monarchy is right islamically. From an Islamic perspective, democracy is much better, but still no match for Shariah.

2. Russia labels the largest transnational Islamic organization (the Muslim Brotherhood) terrorist. I want you to research the public opinion of Sunni Muslims regarding the Muslim Brotherhood. Erdogan is by far the most popular Muslim in the Muslim world, and he has the same view (Global Islamic caliphate or at least NATO-style military alliance) as the Muslim Brotherhood. Russia is their biggest enemy in the Western world, so Russia cannot be a friend.

3. Russia is trying actively to stop any kind of a Muslim alliance especially around Asia. This is the first reason for its tension with Turkey. While America too wouldn’t want to see such an alliance, it is not as active as Russia in opposing it. Russia’s actions in Libya and Syria must be viewed in this light – curbing any efforts by Erdogan to unite the Muslims of these countries under a democratic system. Russia knows that any democracy in the Muslim world will favor Islamists as they have more public support. Egypt, Tunisia, and Libya are good examples of the popularity of Islamists. As soon as the dictators fell, Muslim Brotherhood or similar individuals came to power with great public support in all these countries. They had to be removed by military force or other unconstitutional measures, but Islamists could not be defeated at the ballot. This says a lot about who the Muslim world support. Russia is actively propping up dictators and deploying its military to prevent ANY form of democracy wherever it gets the chance. Even when it knows these monarchies and dictators are oppressors. So, Russia cannot a friend. It’s actually Sunni Islam’s biggest enemy – on par with France.

Chris Gr

LOL there are several islamist dictators. Examples are Zia ul Haq of Pakistan, Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran and Omar Bashir of Sudan. And Erdogan is slowly becoming one.

The Objective

Yeah, they are better than the un-Islamic dictatorships. But that doesn’t make dictatorship right. Islamic governance system is the only one for Muslims. And we’ll return to it no matter how long it takes. There are people who are alive only to further this goal. Erdogan is one of them InshaAllah.

Chris Gr

Bashir genocided South Sudanese and Darfuris. Ayatollah killed many communists and Balochis. Erdogan is just suppressing right now but he supports rogue militias in Syria.

farbat

turkey is clueless it does truely think that buying a few military systems from russia china america and opportunistically who ever comes first and is cheaper is going to get it to a place to become a mayor power again but turkey is a failed project already and the sultan erdogan is prove to that he broke the turkish project and created a failed neo ottoman one which is on the side of terrorists and nato creating nothing but problems for everybody including itself

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The Objective

If you think Turkey is weak militarily due to its purchase of military hardware from Russia and America, then make sure you don’t miss the coming events of 2023 in Turkey InshaAllah. You’ll know just far the country has come in terms of defense and weapons systems. Most progresses are reserved for that special year.

The Objective

This comment is not by the real “The Objective”

Chris Gr

Yeah right. You are from number 10 and below.
https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.php

The Objective

Is this what determines military victory? America is ranked 1st on globalfirepower. Taliban is ranked ….. 100? 200? or what?
America won the battles but lost the war (final victory).

How many tanks/planes/missiles/bombs can Russia bring to the Syrian front should hostilities breakout with Turkey? Then how many can Turkey bring to both Syria and the Mediterranean? Do the maths.

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Chris Gr

Russia is much stronger than Turkey. But Russia may abandon Assad and Iran may align with Turkey that’s why the invasion of Syria is imminent.

Emrisrex

Erdogan always plays both sides of the fight

The Objective

And he’s won or at least has not been defeated so far

Robert

What makes a strong nation?
1. Financial might
2. militarily technology
3. Strong ideology that unites citizens towards a common course particularly the security sector
4. Diplomatic supremacy
Tell me which of these Turkey has or the so called eurasia ? Without diplomacy nations can gang up against you, suction and cripple your economy.
MUSLIMS ARE SO STUPID THEY LIVE IN DREAMS.

The Objective

If Muslims are so stupid, why were you (the wise crusaders) defeated in Afghanistan?
Or if Muslims are so stupid, why are so freaked out about Turkey and Erdogan? Why haven’t you supported democracy like you claim, you two-faced satanic rattlesnakes?
Your bitterness is testament to the fact that you realize Islam is the only force that WILL demolish your Western world order and life style. And you are right about that.

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Rhodium 10

Neither Russia nor China and Iran ( countries with a great influence in central Asia)..want that Turkey ( a NATO member) stick his nose there….

The Objective

Turkey is only in NATO by name and to reap as much advantage as possible. But it’ll leave when Erdogan decides there’s no more advantages to be had.
Too late to stop it. Turkey is already in central Asia.

block

The turks have no chance against a Russian, Iranian, Chinese alliance. The SCO, CSTO, BRICS, Eurasian Economic Union, exist to protect and align Eurasian economic, military and geostrategic interests.

The Objective

There can never be any military alliance between Iran, Russia, and China. Know why? Because they are more likely to compete than cooperate. Take Syria as an example of your so-called Iran-Russia alliance. For instance, Russia lets Israel bomb Iran’s ass in Syria. Russia also clicked a deal for Egyptian oil to replace Iranian oil in Lebanon. What a blow to your future ally.
There’s a much better chance of an alliance between Iran and a NATO Turkey than Iran and a non-NATO Russia. At least Turkey wouldn’t allow repeated Israeli strikes on Iranian assets if it could stop it.

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block

A pathetic reply worthy of diaper brigade status. Transparent, selective logic. You are a troll imbecile, hasbarat payroll much?

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The Objective

I like it when you react like this. It means I’m hitting you where it hurts.
Selective logic? Why not present your logic then. Anyone is free to say anything on this forum.
If you still think an alliance between Iran and Russia is possible, please read this:
https://www.mei.edu/publications/russias-failed-efforts-restructure-syrian-army

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block

Please fool. Would the Eurasian nations advertise their future decades of strategic intentions?

I like it when you post idiotic propaganda garbage. Go back to cnn and promote transgender idiocy. The Russians already exterminated 150000 foreign swine on Syrian territory.

The american, british, zionist swine are finished in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Venezuela, Bolivia, Yemen etc.

Chris Gr

Yeah because Khamenei is Azeri Turk.

Chris Gr

Russian-Chinese-INDIAN alliance not Iranian.

dieter bohler

Turkey‘s plan is to wipe out or push out Russian speakers from these countries as they slaughtered Armenians, Greeks an other orthodox Christians in the 20th century. A first step was taken in the war against Nagorno Karabach. Russia foolishly did not intervene earlier and Russian weapons prooved to be useless garbage in that conflict. Instead of confronting Turkey, Russia is playing best friends with Erdogan and his brutal clique !