Syria – Turkey Fails In Idleb, Is Unwilling To Take The Northeast

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Syria - Turkey Fails In Idleb, Is Unwilling To Take The Northeast

The Moon Of Alabama blog released an article providing an interesting look at the recent devevelopments in northeastern Syria and the Idlib de-esclation zone (source):

The neoconservatives in the Trump administration, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, National Security Advisor John Bolton and the Syria envoy James Jeffery, are scrambling to save their plans for Syria that President Trump disposed of when he ordered a complete retreat.

Those plans were for a permanent U.S. occupation of northeast Syria, the reduction of Iranian influence within the government held parts of Syria and an eventual disposal of the Syrian government under President Assad through negotiations. These were unicorn aims that had no chance to ever be achieved.

Moreover Trump had never signed off on these ideas. Back in April he had announced that he wanted U.S. troops out of Syria. He gave his staff six month to achieve that. But instead of following those orders Pompeo and Bolton tried to implement their own plans:

Late last year, some of the president’s hawkish advisers drafted a memo committing the United States to a longer-term presence in Syria that included goals of an enduring defeat of the Islamic State, a political transition and the expulsion of Iran, officials said. The president has not signed the memo, which was presented to him weeks ago.In fact, Trump had warned his aides for months that he wanted out of Syria in short order.

Bolton’s Iran plan never really took effect at the Pentagon, where officials were not officially tasked with any new mission in addition to the operation against the Islamic State. Military officials likewise viewed Iran’s expansion into Syria as problematic, but they were skeptical about the lack of a clear legal justification that would be required for offensive military action against Iranian-backed forces.

Trump recognized that those plans were nonsense and ordered to end them. In that process he came up with a likewise unicorn idea – to hand northeast Syria to Turkey to fight the already defeated Islamic State. Turkey does not want northeast Syria. It does not want to risk a bloody war against the Kurds that would be required to sustain such an occupation.

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The only appropriate solution is to hand control of northeast Syria (yellow) back to the Syrian government (red). Damascus would disarm the Kurds or integrate them within its national army. They would be under control and no longer a threat to Turkey. Everyone could live with such an easy solution.

Everyone but the neocons.

Today National Security Advisor Bolton is on his way to Israel to cook up new plans:

A Trump administration official told reporters traveling with Bolton that Bolton intended to discuss the pace of the drawdown, as well as American troop levels in the region. Bolton was expected to explain that some U.S. troops based in Syria to fight IS will shift to Iraq with the same mission and that some American forces may remain at a key military outpost in al-Tanf, in southern Syria, to counter growing Iranian activity in the region.Bolton’s also was to convey the message that the United States will be “very supportive” of Israeli strikes against Iranian targets in Syria, …

I bet that neither of those points was signed off by Trump. The publication of these ideas is another attempt by Bolton to push his personal policies to the front.

Erdogan, asked by Trump to take northeast Syria but unwilling to do so, raised demands that the U.S. is unlikely to fulfill:

Turkey is asking the U.S. to provide substantial military support, including airstrikes, transport and logistics, to allow Turkish forces to assume the main responsibility for fighting Islamic State militants in Syria, senior U.S. officials say.The Turkish requests are so extensive that, if fully met, the American military might be deepening its involvement in Syria instead of reducing it, the officials added.

Bolton will later fly to Ankara and discuss the Turkish plans:

Participants will include White House national security adviser John Bolton; Gen. Joe Dunford, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs; and James Jeffrey, the State Department envoy for Syria.One U.S. official said the administration is unlikely to provide all of the military support the Turks are seeking, especially on air support.

Without U.S. air support Erdogan can not attack northeast Syria. The Turkish air force is weak. Many of its experienced pilots were fired for alleged support and involvement in the coup against Erdogan. The airforce is unable to provide the necessary 24/7 support its soldiers would need. There is also strife within the Turkish army command. If he would order an attack, Erdogan would only go for the Kurdish areas along the northern border, not for the Islamic State. That again is something the U.S. does not want at all:

Many experts and officials also fear the Turks may target Kurdish fighters who have long provided the U.S. with solid support in the campaign against Islamic State militants and endured considerable loss of life.To try to mitigate these risks, Mr. Jeffrey, the State Department envoy, is seeking to forge an arrangement with the Turks that would allow them to enter northern Syria while avoiding largely Kurdish areas, say U.S. officials familiar with the plans.

Mr. Jeffrey and his State Department team have created a color-coded map of northeastern Syria in an attempt to negotiate a power-sharing plan that could avert a costly Turkish-Kurdish fight in the area.  … One former U.S. official described the map as “Sykes-Picot on acid,” …

The idea is delusional. There are no borders between Kurds, Arabs and other ethnicities in northwest Syria. The populations is mixed. Only the ethnic percentages vary from town to town. Implementing the idea would lead to ethic cleansing and an everlasting war.

The Kurds are no longer willing to follow the U.S. lead.

Mr. Jeffrey has asked Gen. Mazloum Abdi, the Kurdish commander of Syrian fighters, to hold off on making any deals with President Bashar al-Assad’s government while the Trump administration tries to develop its strategy.

“F*ck you,” said General Abdi, as the Kurds continue to negotiate:

Syrian Kurdish leaders aim to secure a Russian-mediated political deal with President Bashar Assad’s government regardless of U.S. plans to withdraw from their region, a senior Kurdish official told Reuters.The Kurdish-led administration that runs much of northern Syria presented a road map for an agreement with Assad during recent meetings in Russia and is awaiting Moscow’s response, Badran Jia Kurd, who attended, said.

A deal between the Kurds and the Syrian government “is inevitable” says a senior Kurdish military official. The U.S. proved again to be unreliable and the Kurds have nowhere else to go.

None of the new plans and ideas Bolton presents make any sense. They are unlikely to have Trump’s blessing. While the U.S. retreat from northeast Syria may be delayed another month or two, it will likely proceed.

The last week saw new developments in Idleb governorate. Idelb is largely ruled by the al-Qaeda organization Hayat Tahrir al Sham (HTS),  the former Jabhat al-Nusra. There are also many other groups under Turkish control. But Turkey had recently transferred many of those fighters to attack the U.S.-Kurdish held Manbij at the Euphrates. That attack was stopped when the Syrian army took control of the area.

While the Turkish supported groups in Idleb were weakened, HTS used the occasion to reinforce its control. On Monday HTS (grey) attack the areas west of Aleppo which were held by Nour al-Din al-Zenki. The once CIA supported Zenki became ‘famous’ when in 2016 some of its fighters published a video in which they beheaded a sick ten year old boy for no discernible reason.

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During the last five days at least 130 people were killed in the Idleb fighting. Zenki was eliminated from the area it held (stripped grey) and its remaining fighters fled to the northern Afrin canton which is under Turkish army control. HTS took control of Zenki’s heavy weapons including four tanks.

HTS now controls all areas next to Turkey and the Turkish controlled Afrin. It sent ultimatums to other groups in Idleb and demanded additional control over the towns Maarat al-Nu’man and Ariha in the south of the governorate. As none of the other groups can withstand HTS it will likely soon control these towns. Taking them gives HTS full control over the M4 and M5 highways. Control of the highways can be used to generate money and as an asset in future negotiations.

The Astana agreement between Russia and Turkey over Idleb stipulated that HTS would be pushed back 15 miles from the government held areas. The M4 and M5 highways would be reopened to traffic for government traffic. Turkey was supposed to implement and guarantee those points. Not one of these points has been achieved. The Turkish soldiers stationed in six observation posts around Idleb governorate are hostages to HTS. As Turkey failed to deliver on its promises Syria and Russia have all rights to ignore the agreement, attack HTS and to liberate Idleb.

That Turkey failed in Idleb makes it more likely that it will refrain from invading northeast Syria. Its army positions in Syria are already in trouble. Why add new ones to the mess?

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  • Jesus

    What Trump said will come to pass, he fired Mattis, McGurk and Sweeney gutting the Pentogon neocon mules, if Pompeo and Bolton keep their neocon inspired narrative and tread water, they will be gone as well. Reintegrating the Kurds within the Syrian framework is the only option that makes sense, the Kurds will find out that Pompeo and Bolton speak without any authority.

    • You can call me Al

      After you said that, can you imagine Bolton’s face if he is suddenly sacked (fired)…..PRICELESS.

      PS I absolutely hate Bolton and obviously I have never met him, but he just has one of those faces tou want to punch many, many times.

      • Barba_Papa

        I’d pay good money to see you smash Bolton’s face in. And pop corn. Lots of pop corn. ;-)

        • Promitheas Apollonious

          and beers or better, the brew we make here in our basements from our own fruits and grapes.

    • You can call me Al

      Regards the situation, I think the Syrians need to cross the river Eastwards from DEZ, kick the two US bases out and promise the Kurds air support to finish the last ISIS scum (if they do remain in the real life) and then slowly move upwards.

      • jorge

        Al, government and syrian kurds are negociating also with the eyes in DEZ.

  • jako

    U.S. blessing of Turkish occupation like Syria is their own land to give it away?!!?
    All this bullshit is hardly worth of reading…
    Those are just Neocon pipe dreams.
    SAA will get into the Idlib and nothing and nobody will be able to stop them.
    Above all surly not NATO or Turk aviation (under the Russian non fly-zone)
    So all they can do is just to keep wining and complaining with false stories on atrocities or screaming about false flag “chemical attack”.

    Jihad maniacs will receive what they deserve.

    • Promitheas Apollonious

      let us hope you are right.

      • jako

        It is not if I am right or wrong
        Syria has NO OTHER OPTION if they want to exist as an country.
        And now is crucial moment to turn the tide or later will be too late.

        • Promitheas Apollonious

          brother i am with you on this, been screaming my head of for months now so dont take me wrong to have my doubts that the powers who control what is happening to allow it happen for their own reasons. 5 years ago i be on location and not behind a keyboard, this is how strongly I feel about it.

          • jako

            If they stop now their fighting was worthless and all sacrifices will be useless.
            Syria will lose Kurds controlled territory
            If they clean up Idlib it will be OVER !
            The only thing left will be to negotiate Kurds coming back into the Syrian Republic and Turks getting OUT!
            There is NO reason to put up with Idlib Jihad enclave the way it is now while they are in extremely difficult position like that to start to negotiate with the Kurds.
            If they don’t retake Idlib they will lose parts of Syria for sure and have Israeli and Turk vaulters circling around for the rest.

          • Promitheas Apollonious

            agreed 100%.

          • Tom Tom

            Yes, it was worthless to most human beings, but not to Lockheed Martin and the weapons/death dealers.

          • jako

            Everybody in this life has their share of misery.
            It’s karma.
            Mass killing of innocent people for profit has to be paid sooner or later.
            Those professional assassins will have to pay for crimes they do.

    • jorge

      I liked the article

      • jako

        Cool with me jorge I have lost patience to read it..
        So what is your point why are you telling me this?

        • jorge

          It’s only my opinion, but if you don’t want you don’t read it.

        • Zionism = EVIL

          It makes sense to read the articles and then comment. Most are quite well written and offer diverse points of view and not Jew fanned group think propaganda that most brainwashed morons in the west read.

          • jako

            You and jorge have point and I did read the article.
            It’s just that I am human and sometimes I lose the patience to read certain things.
            Too much bullshit in many of the articles

    • Tom Tom

      A lot of “Trumpists” don’t understand what’s happening in Syria. They just want him to bring everyone home from overseas.

      • Zionism = EVIL

        Maybe so, but Zionist slaves like the idiot Bolton control deep state policies. Trump is just a loudmouth buffoon with no real power. The Bilderberg Jews want endless wars and destruction of any nation that opposes their agenda. Syria was in their sights since 1948 and their collusion with Turkey and Saudis/Emiratis etc created the terror campaign against Dr. Assad. The Jew agenda is endless wars and use the dumb Americunt brainwashed morons as cannon fodder. S0-called 911 was the a bonanza for the devious Jew scum:

        ‘Larry Silverstein, Lewis Eisenberg made billions from dollars from destruction of Twin Towers’

        Zionist businessmen Larry Silverstein and Lewis Eisenberg, who
        are close friends of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, made
        billions of dollars from the destruction of the Twin Towers on September
        11, 2001, says Dr. Kevin Barrett, an American academic who has been
        studying the events of 9/11 since late 2003.

      • jako

        “They just want him to bring everyone home” but he will not do that.
        They are about to do exactly opposite of what he said.
        So as President he doesn’t have no right to relocate even 2000 troops to Iraq let alone to bring them home and stop at least one war from continuing.
        He could have strike deal with Russia and make compromise in Syria but he had refused to do it.
        Who is controlling the White House?

    • Zionism = EVIL

      Like their Zionist masters, the Turkeys covet the rich agricultural lands and water resources of northern Syria. Turks with Americunt blessings want to create a SLA style enclave in Idlib province, just like they did with Northern Cyprus as well. The only thing that is putting a damper on more aggression is the incompetence of their military and inability to conduct large scale combined arms operations, especially against a resurgent SAA which has Hezbollah support. The Turks would lose literally hundreds of tanks and men if they attacked Syria in force and also if the Russians and SAA activated their air defence systems. The Syrians under moral and international law have every right and an obligation to defend their country and expel all invaders. It is time to take the war to the Turkish thugs who are far weaker than most realize and the cannon fodder Anatolian peasants would turn on Erdogan if body bags start coming home in hundreds. There is already acute restlessness in Turkish villages which provide the bulk of the illiterate and untrained cannon fodder for Erdogan’s manic ego.

      • Bill Wilson

        Northern Syria doesn’t have any water resources other than depleted aquifers and the Euphrates River whose flow can be reduced to a trickle by Turkey.

      • jako

        “and also if the Russians and SAA activated their air defence systems”
        Non fly zone is active.
        There is nothing left to “activate”.

        I don’t agree that “It is time to take the war to the Turkish thugs”
        To attack them and make one united front against Assad?!
        That would only play perfectly in the hands of Israel,U.S., NATO,false Jihad, Arab gulf supporters (even Kurds) and all other long list of enemies of Assad
        That would give them possibility to regroup and make more chaos in Syria and perpetuate war
        And to Kurds possibility to ignore Assad from the other side of Euphrates.

        For some reason many of you people think with the emotions and passion but that is not good in complex situations like this at all.
        One must keep perfect calm and think lot before making move.

        Syria must liberate Idlib now to make better negotiating position with the Kurds
        Once Kurds integrate back into SAA Turks will have to leave one way or another and US, NATO as well.

        So “moral and international law” will have to wait for Syrian “rights” little bit more

  • jorge

    The Moon of Alabama, as you are singing my song, except in the end, I will sing yours, and one more for free,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQJFWhn1R_w

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS-af9Q-zvQ

    • Promitheas Apollonious

      doors one of my favorites.

    • verner

      song from brecht and kurt weils (som var gift med lotte lenya) opera mahoganny and where the ladies of the night sings they want the young boys, which jim morrisson couldn’t sing, really, so’they changed it to girls – but it’s a good song – one of the best actually! brecht knew what he was doing and weill put music to brecht’s text.

  • Promitheas Apollonious

    unwilling or scared shitless they show how worthless are attacking a formidable enemy, that can actually fight back.

  • John Brown

    Erdogan is currently still battling to remove all the Rothchild agents from the government that tried to kill and over throw him. It will take a few more years to finish this job. Putin also needs to finish this same job in Russia.

    • Promitheas Apollonious

      Bullshits. maybe you should smell the roses see who created the khazarian turks and turkey and once in you never out just a tool of them. Turkey is the first israel, hence the reason the jew prince always lived in turkey and not in palestine.

      As for what you saying about ertofart, he is fully aware where he belongs to you the one who dont understand this and believe the theater played for all to see.

      • Ewan

        Modern Kemalist Turkey was surely created by the Donmeh Young Turk revolution (planned in Europe’s Khazarian capital city of Salonica). Attaturk himself a Donmeh. True, Turkey is saturated with crypto-jew politicians and generals. Erdogan is a pompous idiot with serious delusions of grandeur, but I doubt one could label him a dog of Israel. I think there is a serious effort on Erdogan’s part to smoke out the crypto jews in the eschelons of power.

        • Promitheas Apollonious

          Do you know that ertogan is part greek part jew? You confuse an internal fight among the khazars in turkey who stay in power with ertogan trying to uproot cryptojews as you saying. Look deeper and you find the truth.

          But I agree with you to the fact attaturk is a jew from sallonica same as neoturks created by him, as well a famous queer. By the way you may not know this but is him who named the turks and turk=donkey. I bet you did not know that.

          • John Brown

            ertogan is part greek part jew? Evidence please.

          • Promitheas Apollonious

            do your home work and you get all the evidence you require. google in this case is your best friend, so get to work.

          • John Brown

            So you have nothing, therefore you lie. You have to prove what you say it is not up to others. If you can’ present any evidence don’t even bother to post as no one cares. Like a racist supremacist Jew you think everything you say is right because you are a member of the master Jewish race. Wrong!

      • John Brown

        Evidence please with links would be good.

        • Promitheas Apollonious

          I a not here to educate you. Try and educate yourself about what you speak of if you are able to do this and not just parrot one or the other and then come back and apologize for your ignorance.

          • John Brown

            I am willing to listen and to read. I am willing to educate and I always want to learn more. This why poeple post and read. You are here as a disinfo agent. You have no evidence, no proof, nothing, therefore you lie. You have to prove what you say it is not up to others. If you can’ present any evidence don’t even bother to post as no one cares. Like a racist supremacist Jew you think everything you say is right because you are a member of the master Jewish race. Wrong!

          • Promitheas Apollonious

            well kid if you are the best teacher for you is yourself. But not all have the capacity or the education to understand somethings and you obviously are a parrot who think that has understood the golden P.

            I dont need to present any evidence because I answer to what you said, about turks and their central bank, that is plain BS and I told you so. If you think that all this endless BS you keep posting is evidence or proof of what you saying then you are more stupid than at first presented your self to be, with your first statement.

      • John Brown

        Putin and Erdogan are now in the same situation with the central bank of Russia that Andrew Jackson was in with the Second Central Bank of the United States.
        Erdogan just took control of the Turkish central banks from the Jews.

        Wages don’t cause inflation, it’s a zio lie. Inflation is caused by the amount of money in circulation; money created out of nothing by private Jewish banks stupid slave Goyims pay trillions in interest for, when Goyims countries can create their own money out of nothing and pay no interest to racist supremacist Jews. When the banks increase the money supply they allow in circulation there is inflation when they decrease it there is deflation. End of story.
        “Money is a new form of slavery, and distinguishable from the old simply by the fact that it is impersonal – that there is no human relation between master and slave.” Leo Tolstoy, Russian writer.
        “When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes… Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” – Napoleon Bonaparte, Emperor of France, 1815

        “The death of Lincoln was a disaster for Christendom. There was no man in the United States great enough to wear his boots and the bankers went anew to grab the riches. I fear that foreign bankers with their craftiness and tortuous tricks will entirely control the exuberant riches of America and use it to systematically corrupt civilization.” Otto von Bismark (1815-1898), German Chancellor, after the Lincoln assassination.

        “The few who understand the system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.” The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.
        “Banks lend by creating credit. They create the means of payment out of nothing. ” Ralph M Hawtry, former Secretary to the Treasury.
        “Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money.” — Sir Josiah Stamp, Director of the Bank of England (appointed 1928). Reputed to be the 2nd wealthiest man in England at that time.

        “The modern banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is, perhaps, the most astounding piece of sleight of hand that was ever invented. Banks can in fact inflate, mint and un-mint the modern ledger-entry currency.” Major L L B Angus.
        “The study of money, above all other fields in economics, is one in which complexity is used to disguise truth or to evade truth, not to reveal it. The process by which banks create money is so simple the mind is repelled. With something so important, a deeper mystery seems only decent.” John Kenneth Galbraith (1908- ), former professor of economics at Harvard, writing in ‘Money: Whence it came, where it went’ (1975).
        http://www.themoneymasters.com
        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/596089027ca99493781bd614f0dec690e6170a0002e4a969a063bf33602d8691.jpg
        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/aba56ba494646b3fd164239d3878d1ce9f7883d49b351c5571f09e0aa3270b28.jpg
        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e3f4f5323cd550b4915160cf0d8015c4eca0dbc57b70649f5df873a3832c3ed4.jpg
        1. Andrew Jackson “I KILLED THE BANK” and paid off the National debt.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl03Hwad9Ws

  • alejoeisabel

    In Deir Azor, Israel will use the United States illegal presence as a human shield, and attack the Syrians Arab Army, aka, “Iranians”.

  • S Melanson

    This was discussed at length in comment sections last summer and I think it is playing out as was expected by most, just the time frame is longer. Erdogan wants to break the US support for Kurds and neutralize the Kurdish threat. This he is doing successfully and cheaply – by threat, his imminent attack on Manjib had desired effect and SAA went in. The break betweenUS and Kurds now nearly complete and SAA will take over the NE of Syria and Turkish military will not need to conduct a costly campaign. The Kurds will be integrated in Syria as the Kurds recognize once and for all it is time to hold the requiem mass for their dream of a Kurdish state in Iraq and Syria.

    In Idlib, get them to fight each other as a step towards way of getting rid of the now unwanted proxies. The plan in Idlib was this from the beginning. Eventually, the SAA will liberate Idlib. The questions that remain are:

    What are the intentions regarding Afrin?

    Once NE Syria and Idlib secured and the question of the Afrin settled, I am assuming all eyes will be on the northern Israel region and in particular, the Golan.

    What are the most plausible scenarios for resolving occupied Golan:

    Status quo – go back to the way things were prior to the Syrian internal proxy conflict?
    Negotiations that are protracted but Syria refrains from trying a military solution?
    Negotiations backed up by military option should they fail to make meaningful progress?
    Sudden attack to seize the Golan?

    What role/attitude can be expected of the players such as Russia, US, Turkey, Gulf States etc…?

  • Tommy Jensen

    Bolton has lived and breathed all his life for Israel and Syria. He knows all the Syria problems down in details and the President dont have this knowledge.

    If Trump now pull out of Syria, the US administration will lose all Bolton´s knowledge of all the problems, and the outcome can be unpredictable for the United States.

    If Trump refuse to listen to all the problems Pompeo and Bolton have found, the President has shown himself as a bully, an egomaniac, a psycho, an insane clown of a President who continue to ignore all the problems, our allies and Israel!

    We and Bolton can resolve all these problems but not hasty and overnight and President Trump should consider Rome was not build in only one day…………….LOL!

    • Lena Jones

      STFU warmonger!

    • verner

      nah bolton will be out on his broad behind as will fatso and trump will reduce the wars to something more manageable and save the moronic states bacon which blackguard obama never could since he was so happy being the first coloured president that he did whatever he was told to do. and now they’re trying to put his wife in his place. what a stupid idea!

  • Willing Conscience (The Truths

    I’ll make it simple. Trump wants out, the deep state doesn’t want out.
    The deep state uses Israeli security concerns over Iran to manipulate Trump and stop him.
    Trump tried to work out how to pull out of Syria, keep Israel safe, and the deep state happy all at the same time, but he couldn’t.
    Then along came Putin and everything changed, Trump’s the number 2 enemy as far as the deep state of the US is concerned, Putin is their number 1 enemy.
    Now Putin is the one negotiating with Iran and Israel concerning regional security, not Trump, he’s taking a back seat and letting the Russians work out the finer details, he’s just going to reap the rewards afterwards. He could try as hard as he liked but would never please all parties without Russian guarantees.
    The deep state and left wing media are right, Putin and Trump are colluding, but it wasn’t to win the election as we were told, it’s to get rid of the deep state in the US now, Trump and Putin both want to destroy the Transgender deep state’s hold over the US government, they kill too many people and don’t do as much business as Putin and Trump would like, they have to go. And besides, neither trump or Putin ever want to have to wear lipstick and a dress, the deep state of the US will be brought down by Putin and Trump, we’re already seeing the bricks crack and fall away.

    • verner

      nah, trump is happy where he is just a tad bit disappointed that he isn’t the unchallenged commander in chief, which the pres is supposed to be, so that is what he’s aiming for – unchallenged commander in chief and another years in the white house. needs to put down the mic/ds and their henchmen bolton, fatso and a few more. but rest assured, he will be the unchallenged commander in chief!

      • Willing Conscience (The Truths

        I’m pretty sure he wants out of Syria, I disagree about that, but you’re absolutely right about what else he has to do.
        I keep joking and saying Trump doesn’t have to do that much to get rid of them anyway, just by forcing the deep state to do things it hasn’t had to do in 70 years is enough to drive them all insane, they’re all starting to leave before he gives them the boot anyway, they probably need to spend more time with their therapists now because of what Trump’s been doing to them.

  • TS

    Yup, the US boys need to stay as HTS needs to go. Needs to get a bit colder although. Maybe in a week or so.

  • verner

    turkey isn’t interested in any syrian land – its sole interest is to contain the kurds so if syria can take care of the kurds on its side of the border, turkey can tak care of the kurds on their side of the border. the kurds can’t go running off to some paradise where independence will be waiting for them – they are stuck as lessor in the borderlands and where the landlords (turkey, syria, iraq and iran) set the terms of the lease.
    and that’s the gist of it.

    that the most moronic states of a is posturing has more to do with israel and fatso and bolton are on a mission to save the israeli day, and it isn’t trump that has sent the morons on this errand, it’s the jewish lobby in washington dc. and the reason is naturally that trump is attempting to deliver on his election promise to end the endless wars and that means that israel will have to face the middle east more or less on its own and the moronic states in the form of trump ain’t about to start a new war in the area against a foe that can defend itself and which will have tacit backing by russia and china, viz iran – it’s just not going to happen.

    so this is a good time to start a de-recognition of israel program and in doing that taking away the legal ground for israel’s existence. opec can start and foot the initial costs since once its under way, it will grow and grow till israel is isolated to kingdom come – hepp!!