Why Should Ukraine Blame Its NATO Allies For The Defeat At Bakhmut?

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Why Should Ukraine Blame Its NATO Allies For The Defeat At Bakhmut?

In view of the reports of high losses of the Ukrainian army in the Donetsk region near Bakhmut city, the question arises as to the root of the defeat. It may include the depletion of the combat-ready units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces after the successful counterattack at Kherson in autumn 2022, the air dominance of the Russian army, the slowdown of new NATO arms shipments after Russian missile attacks on the Ukrainian railway and energy networks.

Why Should Ukraine Blame Its NATO Allies For The Defeat At Bakhmut?

Ukrainian military evacuates wounded soldiers

Western military experts agree that one of the key factors is the participation of the Wagner PMCs, which have already proved themselves as a trained and motivated unit. A distinctive feature of the Wagner group is the extensive use of not only automatic and sniper weapons, but also heavy vehicles, including tanks, MLRS systems and military aircrafts. According to Ukrainian information sources, the heavy losses of the AFU near Bakhmut, reaching 500-700 people per day, are the result of the active use of heavy weaponry by the Russian army.

Why Should Ukraine Blame Its NATO Allies For The Defeat At Bakhmut?

Russia’s newest T-90m tank near Bakhmut

Captured Ukrainian soldiers in the Donetsk region stated that they had taken short-term training courses according to NATO standards in Great Britain and Canada, which do not involve the long-term use of artillery, modern reconnaissance means and heavy machinery by the enemy. The training, which was conducted on a tight schedule and focused on the use of small battle groups and light armored vehicles, proved ineffective and as a result only led to increased losses.

 

 

View of the city through the eyes of the Ukrainian military and made by a Russian drone

 

As it turned out, the NATO tactical systems, which had been well proven in local combat operations in the Middle East and Afghanistan against poorly armed Islamic militant groups, were inefficient against heavily armed regular army forces. In the hope of preventing a catastrophe in Bakhmut, the AFU command can only send new units there, while reducing its capabilities in other parts of the battlefront.

Why Should Ukraine Blame Its NATO Allies For The Defeat At Bakhmut?

Why Should Ukraine Blame Its NATO Allies For The Defeat At Bakhmut?

Ukrainian soldiers after a battle near Bakhmut

Considering a possible intensification of combat operations in the north of Ukraine, combined with the reduced ability of European allies to provide the AFU with weapons and equipment in time, the destruction of the most combat-ready Ukrainian army units in the Donetsk region can be critical for Kiev’s potential to continue the military confrontation with Russia.​

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Jon

County chickens before they hatch.

Jon

Counting chickens before they hatch.

M.Paraplu

There’s an edit button on the lower right in each comment box.

Carlo

it only works within minutes, maybe 1-2 mins

Last edited 1 month ago by Carlo
ROFL

No more chickens Kiev

Yuri

USA homo military=international joke….taliban popcorn now sold everywhere

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Chris Gr

Taliban are gangsters and terrorists.

russianSoldiersAreFreezingToDeathPleaseSendUsSome$

Sorry guys for losing badly but Ukrops are simply better equipped and are mad at us because we took their stuff away sorry but we don’t have toilet seats in great Russia!

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hashed

You are such a funny comedian. Are you President Zelensky?

Nazi trash

the jewish clown is not funny

you oregun lgbt hillbilly inject too much meth

are you moron in nebraska or oregun? me like amerikan penis—your nation all lgbt

Ramschel

I wish US territory would look like that.

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Rightiswrong

Have you seen LA or San Fran lately?

Cromwell

If you think thats bad checkout Detroit LOL!

Yo mama

That zelensky will be first to abandon ship. Don’t forget to thank him Ukrainianisns for selling your country out to NATO.

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Medved

He has many villas to escape to. And lots of stolen $$ to play with.

USA is a shithole, EU is becoming one

No villa and no money will be of any use if Russian spec ops find him and his wife, skin them alive, salt them and impale them. 😁

kotromanic

Well that’s more what his people do to enemys not russians.
I think in the US or Israel he will probably be safe.

The only threat could be asov and pravi sector guys who would feel betrayed.

End Ukraine once and for all!

Even better! :D

zelensky travel agency

I like dictators Biden and turdeau—but no like burger and lgbt

John Kesich

But will the CIA decide he will be more use to them as a heroic martyr?

Gustavo

Yes, I think the jew clown nazi-fascist of Zelensky will go to Tel-Aviv.

Ahmed the Cocksucker

Good joke. Midget Napoleon have not seen Ukropizdan shithole since February.

SuwatTor​

What does it mean: lack of weapons, high fatality rate and ran out of money? Defeated!

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USA is a shithole, EU is becoming one

The Ukrainians should blame USA for pushing them into this mess.

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anon

Blame themselves for following a jew selling swastikas

William White

Best line of the Day!

Gustavo

There is no manipulator without an accomplice. The lover of madness and lies needs an accomplice.

USA is a shithole, EU is becoming one

Why are Russian tanks without infantry support and tank support vehicles all the time?! The tank is a mobile fortress on tracks but like any fortress, it needs to be covered from all sides by other structures and protected from attacks from the above…

Leviathan

the tanks that are photographed are behing enemy lines, moving to battle or used as artillery. It is too dangerous to take photos on front lines, where tanks and infantry support each other.

Western Defector

I think it’s because the Russian army, like the Ukrainian, is run by old generals who are stuck in WW1 mode and won’t break with military tradition. The US Navy Admirals were the same once and they at first resisted the idea of using aircraft on ships – which became aircraft carriers.

America is defeated

In Artemovsk, hundreds of ukrop corpses are rotting in frozen mud without any grave whatsoever. A real feast for crows ! Funny as hell ! So fitting end for those who fight for UE, NATO and America.

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gestapo lgbt therapist

truth very destabilizing to my client stopo gestapo—poko molo

zzz

Nato tranny faggots like Obummer love Game of Thrones. Infact it is called Game of Trannies too. Actors and JRR Martin are trannies. They created one in Ukropistan. A feast for crows is the name of one of the books

Chris Gr

Transgenderism is in fact mental illness, a type of psychosis. However, transgenders should be helped to leave their gender dysphoria.

Chris Gr

This is not funny actually.

The Objective

You obviously think people still believe these ficticious analyses. 500 – 700 deaths a day should have won Russia this war long ago. It probably won’t be long before Ukraine announces Bakhmut liberated.

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Joseph Day

Why is that hard for you to believe, 10,000 and 20,000 in a day in ww1

Leviathan

good point. This Ukraine war front, 800 – 1000 km, is longer than the France – Germany war front of WW1, about 700km.

Last edited 1 month ago by Leviathan
Klausenburgischer

The encirclement from the SW high ground is happening and right now this is a bad position for the Ukrainians … they cannot afford these losses for trying to hold on to an untenable position.
The big problem is that just like Popasna, if Bakhmut breaks there will be an entire defensive line that needs to be abandoned. That is why freshly trained people are thrown into this battle desperately.

zzz

This is Ukraine Verdun. Hope our commanders will fare better than Von Falkenhain.

War

Ukraine start to loss some village to Russia,if they don’t loss many men they will grain some ground in front line. You have nlyfake news that makes you feel good.

Gneaus stapo

Russian Propaganda is killing me, everytime it is more telling about the sad state of the russian Military itself,than about their enemies.

Poor Training, logistics, and the rest of the yada yada, is exactly what the mobilised russians face. The web is full of russian mobilised men, without proper Equipment, no Training and hellish living conditions.

But right, its the russians wining in the battle for bakhmut, going on for months now and Wagner bandits are so good, they keep fighting on at the same place , just for the fun/ joy of it.

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gestapo lgbt therapist

sniffing glue in gay bar killing you —our clinic cannot improve your 83 year old senility…if you beg more rubles you can rent male prostitute give you needed attentionn

War

That is fake news from Ukraine and US make easyfake news by bring what Ukraine suffer and erase name of Ukraine then substitute with Russia name.

jens holm

NATO make me pay 70% income tax, more for electricity all nations on earth and lick americunt penis but give me antidepressant for senility

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gestapo lgbt therapist

fling pigs feel jens pain

Chris Gr

Yuri is that

Rightiswrong

NATO training means jack sheet when you are fighting an army rather than a few civilians with an AK47 and a prayer mat.
NATO training is basically all about cleaning up after the US Airforce has done some shock and awe on a backward nation, the problem is the US Airforce are scared sheetless about Russian air defences.

End Ukraine once and for all!

All NATO tech has been developed for counterinsurgency, that is basically police actions against civilians, unarmed, with less organization than a drug cartel, no intelligence and generally not even food or running water…Even so the “great” NATO warriors managed to get so many soldiers mutilated, IED and incendiary bombs are too much for them .

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zzz

These people are partially able to fight soldiers too but only with huge numerical superiority. Otherwise is Kasserine Pass or worse

Steinfranz

Incorrect. All NATO tech pre-1989/90 (end of the cold war) were developed for a World War 3 scenario (against the Soviet Union). Most NATO tech that was projected (!) after that, especially since 2001, are for counterinsurgency.
In regard to COIN training and rifleman-school: the Bundeswehr broadly introduced the COIN oriented nSAK (Neues Schießausbildungskonzept / New Shooting Training Concept) just like 5 years ago and before that it was, besides for a few specialized formations where nSAK was used since late-2000s, the same riflemen school as in WW2 and before. However, the Bundeswehr even after that differentiates between low and high intensity combat and for high intensity combat they still use the old one. Some NATO-armies however do not anymore.

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Leviathan

Upvote. Once Ukraine forces knew NATO Air Force was not going to support them, they should have downed weapons and refused to fight. In the Vietnam war, after USA withdrew their air forces after signing the peace deal, South Vietnam forces, even with masses of donated US material, collapsed in a few months.

Russia might take longer for their own reasons, and Ukraine land forces are stronger than South Vietnam, but to fight a modern war with no air cover is stupid and suicidal.

Chris Gr

Ukraine is a big land. The second biggest country in Europe, so it is difficult to control it all together. Saudis can’t even control Yemen for example.

Gneaus stapo

Totaly agree…a corrupt,rotten Fake state dictatorship without a working airforce and no Support of its populance wont win.

Especialy when it doesnt propably Support its soldiers.

Last edited 1 month ago by Gneaus stapo
zzz

In NATOstan Right is Wrong as they worship the Devil. In the New Testament it is written about those who believe that Evil is Good. But every Natostan and Americunts victory of the past was due to air supremacy they have now NO MORE. Try to advance in France in ’44 without the 12000 TAC AIR and tell me.

William White

As well they should be. NATO is just another UN joke. A place where retired soldiers go to drink and get fat.

LED

It is time to question the mental health of the little clown and America’s leader……. Americans no longer have to go offshore to fight for freedom or nationalism….Ukraine has turned a bad idea into a money making scheme.

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gestapo lgbt therapist

my homo patient stapo gestaspo aka polo moko blame surgeon for failed gender change surgery—eunuch only finds attention trolling at SF

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zzz

Really what seems not clear to those trannies is that even a successfull “surgery” results in producing eunuchs only

Chris Gr

Surgery is mutilation. Gender dysphoric people need mental help and counseling.

Armin

When an empire is mediocre, like the United States, defeats are chronic! Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!

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Leviathan

Bakhmut Wack a Mole – Russia artillery vs Ukraine Infantry + NATO mercenaries

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John Kesich

Zelensky and the West have often stated their goal of “fighting to the last Ukrainian” – they are clearly on track to accomplishing it. Who’s next? The Poles?

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Gustavo

Canada and UK have training camp for the nazi-fascist ukrainian …..good to know it !! At this point, I think, Bakmut is already lost, and the next one is Kramatorsk which will be taken in this coming Russia Winter offensive.

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Gneaus stapo

Bakhmut not taken, offensive going since summer,so dream on about Winter offensive. There wont be one, Trust me

russianSoldiersAreFreezingToDeathPleaseSendUsSome$

Imagine the US fighting against the Mexico, they still would have to fight for Tijuana! It’s the same with us strong Russians fighting for Ukraine!

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russianSoldiersAreFreezingToDeathPleaseSendUsSome$

Imagine the US fighting for Tijuana against Mexico! It’s the same with us strong Russians fighting for Ukraine!

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John Tosh

Poor guys. Dying for nothing

Chris Gr

This thing is saddening. Seeing Slavs killing each other for Washington DC.

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Nahavar

kill them all!!!!

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Gneaus stapo

Kill all the reds, never let the Ivan flatheads come to rest!

Kbm

Canada and Britain training Canon fodder.
Natostan a bunch of war criminals sending in untrained people to there death.

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Gneaus stapo

What does kbm stand for? Kollosal brain misfunction?

Ur an perfect degenarted Ivan flathead assclown. Cant decide , cant u? Either trained by US/ UK or untrained.

How are the mobilised ivans doing,? Found Tampon supplies? Modern Equipment? Good leadership, working Logistics?

schultz

That is the entirety of the plan. The meat grinder for the Ukies.